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The crazies are running the country

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When the sane decision to reject 6 refugees who have returned to where they are escaping from is overturned something is wrong.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/35518855/iranian-refugees-to-stay-in-australia-on-valid-visas/#page1

Full story and video link better mine modified to 350 words.

Iranian refugees retain protection visas despite holidaying in homeland

Since receiving their Australian protection visas, some of them returned numerous times to Iran.

However, the Administrative Appeals Tribunal (AAT) foiled Mr Dutton’s attempts to deport the Iranians, allowing them to stay here anyway, The Daily Telegraph reports.

The Iranians, who paid people smugglers to get to Australia, were given protection visas after claiming their lives would be in danger if they returned to Iran.

The six people each arrived in Australia between 2009 and 2014.

It's understood one person made three return trips to Iran after getting their Australian visa.

Another person claimed to be on an Iranian wanted list but the Immigration Department later discovered the person was in no danger if they returned to Iran.

A couple who arrived by boat claimed to have no identification documents and they would be killed if they returned.

However it was revealed they actually had valid Iranian passports when they travelled to Iran and back using them.

In both these cases, the AAT found the individual and the couple had lied on their visa applications, but still overturned the decision to kick them out of Australia.

And two Iranian family members claimed to be stateless with no identity documents.

It was soon discovered this wasn't the case when another family member applied to join them in Australia and provided documents to show all were Iranian citizens who were in no danger.

The AAT reinstated their visas after accepting the documents were fake, even though an expert gave evidence to the AAT that the documents were genuine.

Despite the AAT writing in the documents that it was satisfied the Iranian asylum seekers lied to Australian authorities about the dangers they faced if they were sent back to Iran, it still overturned the decisions by the minister to deport them and allowed them all to stay in Australia.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 12:25:55 PM
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warped socialist and gutless conservatives. No wonder Trump and Brexit took place.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 1:53:27 PM
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Totally absurd situation the law says you can't lie but the tribunals are saying you can and nothing will happen.

Imagine how the victims of a rapist will feel now they are allowed to stay because it would effect the mental condition and welfare of the rapists wife.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 2:25:00 PM
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There certainly seems to be a problem there. On what grounds did the AAT reject their deportation?

However, while I don't think it's applicable to any of these cases, we shouldn't prevent refugees, especially those on TPVs, from visiting their homeland in order to determine whether it's now safe for them to settle there again.
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 2:36:40 PM
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While this case does raise some questions I am fully supportive of there being an avenue of legal appeal to government decisions. This is why we continue to be a stable democracy. These protections and checks and balances are part of that stability.

For those wanting these stripped away to suit their ideology can migrate to Russia or China to see what it is like.

“The AAT reinstated their visas after accepting the documents were fake, even though an expert gave evidence to the AAT that the documents were genuine.”

Well one would have thought there was an expert presented for the other side. In the end the tribunal accepted that advice. This is normal in judicial cases.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 2:46:56 PM
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very good chance that these Iranians were encouraged to lie by the refugee advocates in the first place. Triggs herself is very fluid when it comes to the truth.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 3:10:08 PM
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