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The Forum > General Discussion > It appears one can pretty much do as they like, provided they take their ILLEGAL drugs.

It appears one can pretty much do as they like, provided they take their ILLEGAL drugs.

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How on earth can that woman, after having slaughtered seven of her own children, be let off simply because she was under the influence of illegal drugs.

Have we gone completely mad!
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 4 May 2017 7:46:09 PM
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No, rechtub, she wasn’t let off “simply because she was under the influence of illegal drugs”. She wasn't let off at all. And whether marijuana played a role in her mental illness is a side issue.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/schizophrenia-at-its-very-depths-drove-mother-to-kill-eight-children-20170503-gvyf42.html

Six psychiatrists determined that she was psychotic. Insanity is an extremely difficult plea to achieve, and it is by no means a way of getting off the hook. This woman will be locked up indefinitely (probably for the rest of her life) in a mental institute.

The only thing a person gains by pleading insanity (Or should I say, “gets to keep”?) is their last remaining shred of dignity. Other than that, pleading insanity has far worse consequences than standing trial as a sane person, as it means you’ll probably never be free again and you will spend the rest of your days locked up with dribbling loonies.

Give me 20-30 years, with people who might still be worth talking to, any day.

So, have we gone completely mad?

No, we haven’t. We just have a very ignorant and angry public who don’t understand the justice system and, therefore, assume that the country must be run by out-of-touch elites.
Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 5 May 2017 8:16:35 AM
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I suppose some might compare and contrast the media's (and the chattering commentariat's) treatment of other murders of children and family, where for instance the media sensationalises the weapon (and 'mass murder'), or blast men as constant threats to women, children and society.

Negative stereotyping usually takes pride of position in sensationalising many media reports. It sells.

Thankfully the media have not trawled the usual gutters as they usually do. But IMHO through lack of constraint the media have still abused this awful calamity. The media puts their own needs first. I will leave it at that after saying once again on this forum that so often the media treatment does more harm to victims.

For now there should have been simple, factual reporting and the media and the public should allow the families, friends and the community the time to grieve and recover.

Later, after the evidence is in and analysed there needs to be further examination of the solutions, resources and facilities available for the sufferers of mental conditions and for their families.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 5 May 2017 9:40:52 AM
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Thanks AJ, the ignorant think "Not guilty on the grounds of insanity" means the perpetrator simply walks out of the court as if nothing had happened. Nothing could be further from the truth. There are no winners in all this.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 5 May 2017 10:16:10 AM
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What a pile of garbage AJ Philips. "Six psychiatrists determined that she was psychotic" & she'll never be out again. What twaddle. Those same six psychiatrists will at some time claim to have cured the killer, first to justify the thousands we will pay them, & secondly to try to pretend that psychiatry is actually some sort of discipline, rather than witchdoctory for the modern world.

Of course she should never be out again. Being under the influence of drugs including Alcohol should bring a heavier & longer sentence, as the offender is much more likely to reoffend when they indulge again.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 5 May 2017 10:26:30 AM
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How do you know that, Hasbeen?

<<Those same six psychiatrists will at some time claim to have cured the killer, first to justify the thousands we will pay them, & secondly to try to pretend that psychiatry is actually some sort of discipline, rather than witchdoctory for the modern world.>>

Wow. A legitimate field of medicine written off as "witch-doctory"? Now I've seen it all.

You're just annoyed because I've demonstrated how foolish and ignorant your frequent claims regarding so-called out-of-touch elites is.

It must be comforting to just believe whatever you want and to hell with the evidence.

"We don't need none of that there book learnin'!"
Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 5 May 2017 11:00:46 AM
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