Hi Foxy,

I disagree about Shadow Minister's credibility, but even if it were so, if he/she meets that criterion, one wonders why Triggs and our Shadow Minister aren't being awarded the Prize jointly :)

Do you have anything concrete, relevant or positive to add ? Perhaps during one of your future comeback tours, you could try Woody Guthrie's "So long, it's Been Good to Know you !"

Love,

Joe

Dear Joe,

If you don't like my opinion of Shadow Minister,
he can always improve.

As far as your advice to me regarding this discussion?
I am curious as to why don't you give similar advice
to Shadow Minister. After all he keeps "coming back"
as well. Why single only me out?

But you're right. To paraphrase Christopher Hitchens:

"To describe this discussion as a piece of ... would
be to run the risk of a discourse that would never
again rise above the excremental."

Foxy,

I take it from your reply that you have no answer for your silence on left whinge rantings, and I take your trite ad hominem as an admission of hypocrisy.

Gillian Triggs is an attacker of free speech not a defender, and anybody that values freedom of speech would consider her vile.

P.S.

Joe's comment to you was based on your previous stated leaving of the thread. As I never "left" I cannot be coming back.

Dear Shadow Minster,

My ad hominem?

My hypocrisy?

And this coming from one of the most effluent posters
on this forum.

I wonder what Shakespeare would have seen as Gillian Triggs' hamartia and responsible for her final, almost inevitable fall from grace?

Although I do believe that she was poorly served and possibly set-up by some nasty critters in the swamp that is the 'human rights' in Australia, including the external influences who are rarely seen above water and are 'coincidentally' in the vicinity when the water turns claret.

To some, Professor Triggs herself is necessary collateral damage where the ends justify the means. Australia might be hicksville compared with the US and Europe, but it does have some very nasty saltwater crocs who smile and smile and ..etc.

As well, there was one occasion at least and arguably more, where she would have been better advised to examine and admit to her own inattention.

Not implying the presence of any of those media-stereotyped age-related memory 'problems'. Simply that we are all human and sometimes our brains through our reconstructed memory have us believing and maybe stating remembered 'facts' that are not always true to or even representative of what transpired at the time. The tabloid media and people who should know better are prone to sensationalise such human errors as lies, whereas they are anything but that.

But then again, maybe Gillian Triggs' own personality and legal training might not allow her to admit fault.

Gillian Triggs should have relied on her own intuition, her own felt sense and politely refused that politically loaded 'award' from that Victorian crew.

Some must have smiled.