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Big Mistake, President Trump

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Dear Loudmouth,

You are forgetting the US has an incredibly strong relationship with the Israelis who are busy bombing targets within Syria and providing support to not only the Free Syria Army but some other pretty unsavory groups much of it in the name of 'my enemy's enemy is my friend'.

“analysts suggest the Jewish state has in fact struck a deadly 'deal with the devil' – offering support to the Sunni militants who fight the Syrian ruler Assad in the hope of containing its arch enemies Hezbollah and Iran”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/Watch-heart-pounding-moment-Israeli-commandos-save-Islamic-militants-Syrian-warzone-risking-lives-sworn-enemies.html

Trump had promised to “bomb the sh@t out of ISIS” but resultant carnage in the civilian population is clear to see.

“According to Airwars, a British monitoring group, alleged civilian casualties linked to U.S. strikes in Syria and Iraq have soared to 1,472 so far this month. In March of last year, 196 civilians were reported killed. The previous all-time high was 613 in January.”
https://news.vice.com/story/us-airstrikes-have-killed-more-and-more-civilians-in-iraq-and-syria-since-trump-took-office

I'm not sure the dead civilians now know the difference between the Syrian government gas attack and the US bombing raids, they remain dead. Both aggressors will be using the excuse, that the armaments were directed primarily at fighting forces on the other side, but civilians are still losing their lives in horrific numbers.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 1:56:22 PM
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Armchair, that story about a plan of regime change is a really old story.
The idea is now obsolete as everyone now realises that changing the
head man or head party or head religion is to no avail.

Until they stop marrying their cousins their behaviour problem will
not subside. It is also at the root of their tribal problem.
However if they stopped cousin marriage today it would take several
generations perhaps 500 years to repair their genome.

Nothing will change until the politicians come to the realisation
that there is a problem with Islam and that nothing can be done to
help them. They have to help themselves. The rest of us have spent
enough lives and wealth trying to help them all to no avail.
All we can do is perhaps enforce the laws about cousin marriage in
our own countries so that those of Arab descent will breed it out
and deport as many as possible.
That is it, they are a problem and it must be accepted as such.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 2:52:29 PM
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steelie: “analysts suggest the Jewish state has in fact struck a deadly 'deal with the devil' – offering support to the Sunni militants who fight the Syrian ruler Assad in the hope of containing its arch enemies Hezbollah and Iran”

Hmmm, you didn't mention that Israeli Planes attacked Hezbollah targets after they shell & used missiles against Israel first. They were very selective. (Selective again)

steelie: I'm not sure the dead civilians now know the difference between the Syrian government gas attack and the US bombing raids,

You didn't mention any ISIS or Rebel killed Civilians, of which there were many. Why is that? Supporting ISIS & the Rebels for the Islamists? I think so.

steelie: but civilians are still losing their lives in horrific numbers.

They wouldn't be killed if the Rebels or ISIS weren't using their own families as human shields. As I've stated previously, the reason they have their families with them is because their male friends would Rape them if they were not with them. Great mates Ay?
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 4:12:26 PM
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Thank goodness we've now got a Repubican in the White House, eh?

The last 8 yrs have been a nightmare for the WIAFS (whatever, its America's fault) who really couldn't give full vent to their prejudices given the occupant's skin colour and political leanings. But now its back to full on blame the US first and ask questions later.

Any old piece of rubbish passes as considered thought when it puts the US in a bad light. Did Assad drop WMD's - no, not if the US says he did...it musta been someone else. Quite how this someone else got these weapons is left unansweredd because its unanswerable and/or the answers don't suit the WIAF narrative.

Trump's actions have been a master-stroke, which I'm guessing was planned for some time and by the board that now runs the US policy, not just the CEO - Tillerson, MAttis, Haley etc.

In one stroke, without any great cost to the US, all its enemies have been put on alert that the game has changed and the adults are back in charge. The Obamessiah's leading from behind policies are no more and the aggressors who have been operating on the assumption that the US was too timid to oppose them, have been disabused of that fallacy.

Assume that Russia, Iran, China and Kim will all be a lot more 'flexible' in their thinking and attitude to the US from this point onward
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 4:30:37 PM
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Hi MHaze,

Do you mean that, say, China will be flexible like this:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/china-moves-150000-troops-medical-10199100

Encouraging a tight alliance between Russia, China, Iran and all their client states may be something of a problem for the US.

So what's next ? Does Trump et al. have follow-through plans ? Any Plan B ? Will the US respond in the same way if there is another gas attack ? Or have they got an even more cunning plan ?

When I was a kid, I used to enjoy shoving a stick into an ants'-nest until my mum clipped me round the ear [children: that's called corporal punishment; ask your grandparents]. I hope Trump does have a range of 'flexible' Plan Bs.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 5:25:21 PM
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Master stroke. LOL
Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 5:35:20 PM
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