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Big Mistake, President Trump

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Hi Jayb,

Yes, I forgot those other 1,500 other groups. I'll look for their names now for you :)

I suppose that once ISIS is defeated, and before another Islamist-/fascist group can get organised, attention can turn to Assad and his nationalism/fascism. Probably other groups out of that 1,500 will surge up, and so on.

But over-arching all of that, once each of that multitude(1,500 x 1,500) of rivalries can be sorted out, there will still be the North-South Axis of Sunni Turkey and Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, AND the East-West Axis of Iran, Syria and Hezbollah/Hamas - each with outside allies. Eventually a billion and a half people at each others' throats, some with nuclear weapons and a craving for Paradise, an all those virgins. Iran, by the way, is very friendly with both India and China. It's a funny old world.

So maybe, the longer this one plays out, the further off the Big One recedes. Book a ring-side multi-season seat, Jayb :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 10:40:16 AM
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If any of you take the time to really hunt for the backstory you'll find there are alternative points of view the media doesn't go out of its way to share with you.

'Far Right Wing Conspiracy'
'Fake News'

'Don't listen to THEIR facts, ONLY listen to ours'.

Tell me how many of you guys honestly don't know that regime change was planned in Syria?
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MqVY1-ncBI
Why are you not asking the questions 'Why wasn't I given that information?'
Why are you not asking yourselves whether it's pure journalistic incompetence or is there more to the story?
Whether you were deliberately not told?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

But does this stuff still go on today?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America
http://www.thenation.com/article/amazon-washington-post-and-600-million-cia-contract/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/obama-signs-countering-disinformation-and-propaganda-act-law

And how many of you actually went and looked up Vanessa Beeley or Tulsi Gabbard?
Here's Vanessa Beeley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8mA0h7dCKI

Remember if you don't know this stuff, if you aren't aware of it you don't know anything; you're deliberately not been given the right info and played for an idiot.

Anyone here want to admit they're an idiot?
Because that's what anyone else's opinion of you will mostly be after they watch it and become more informed and you still haven't.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 11:03:17 AM
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According to the Chicago Tribune - if the Trump
Administration and the Kremlin are not able to
come to a meeting of the minds on Syria, it could
set the two nuclear powers on a dangerous collison
course.

The Chicago Tribune tells us that finding a way to
advance American interests in Syria while avoiding
a war with Russia is the urgent task at hand.
"After all, sinking into a Syrian quagmire would be
bad enough. World War III would be far worse."
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 11:55:42 AM
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Dearest Foxy,

Yes, after all, what ARE US interests in Syria ? None, apart from its supposed concern for human rights and punishment for war crimes. Fair enough, but those don't give the US much of a foothold, while the Russians have been bed-mates with the Assads for fifty years, and desperately need to keep their air-base and port facilities in Syria, to give them a Mediterranean presence.

So it shouldn't be hard for the Yanks and the Russians to come to a tacit agreement: that the US stays out of it unless that 'red line' is crossed again, BUT they will make sure, even then, they don't harm any Russians or touch Russian hardware. They ought to come to a definite agreement about air space in relation to fighting ISIS in the East, maybe a twenty-kilometre no-fly corridor between the two sets of operations (which varies unbeknownst to ISIS). [I've always wanted to use 'unbeknownst' somewhere; like 'albeit' or 'notwithstanding', big, important-sounding words].

Yes, it is a 1500-group quagmire, with very powerful forces immediately outside the arena: e.g. Turkey and Iran, and other powerful forces outside of that: all of Sunni Islam vs all of Shi'ite Islam - a sort of inverse of Dante's circles of Hell.

Much love always,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 12:32:28 PM
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Yes, Armchair.
But the pundits here including on OLO continue to blindly follow major media spiel and spin.
They continue commenting as though Assad is guilty of using chemical weapons just several days ago.
So much for democracy in Australia.
Guilty without evidence or trial is un-Australian.
Why isn't evidence of Assad using gas published?

It's unsubstantiated accusation of weapons of mass destruction consequences all over again, now, plus deadly radiation.

Trump apparently has shares in Tomahawk missile manufacturing and a new supply will cost hundreds of millions of dollars to replace those just fired on Syria.
.N.B. Raytheon.
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/donald-trumps-stock-portfolio-2015-7?r=US&IR=T
and
http://fortune.com/2017/04/07/syria-airstrikes-tomahawk-missile-boeing-raytheon-stock/

And have a good look into the first link Armchair posted above.
Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 12:57:40 PM
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Ah, the consequences of consequences of actions: China has moved 150,000 troops and 'medical supplies' towards the North Korean border:

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/china-moves-150000-troops-and-medical-supplies-to-north-korean-border-in-case-us-attacks-kim-jong-un-regime/ar-BBzFSGj?li=AAavLaF&ocid=spartandhp

Silly question: would Trump be stupid enough to launch an attack on North Korea ? After all, what would Rambo do, or Clint Eastwood ? Ride in, shoot up the baddies, and ride out to the grateful thanks of village people.

Maybe it's not just his mobile phone that they need to keep away from him, but all those action comics as well.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 1:52:08 PM
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