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From the lips of someone who should know

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Dear ttbn,

Thank You for telling me that, it's good to know.

In her books Ayaan Hirsi Ali makes a powerful plea for
a Muslim Reformation. It would be heartening to learn
that she is getting through to some Muslims. May she
long continue her work.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 11:23:02 PM
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doog et al,

"Matthew 16:17-20J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)

17-20 “Simon, son of Jonah, you are a fortunate man indeed!” said Jesus, “for it was not your own nature but my Heavenly Father who has revealed this truth to you! Now I tell you that you are Peter the rock, and it is on this rock that I am going to found my Church, and the powers of death will never prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of Heaven; whatever you forbid on earth will be what is forbidden in Heaven and whatever you permit on earth will be what is permitted in Heaven!” Then he impressed on his disciples that they should not tell anyone that he was Christ."

There can only be one true Christian Church and the true one is the one that can trace itself back to Peter in an unbroken line.
There could be no reason for a Religious Reformation for in light of the 'Tu es Petrus' there could never be the necessity and therefore all breakaways from the Catholic Church are in error.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 8:28:51 AM
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Is Mise,
You did not read the whole context of Matthew 16:17-20. The Greek word Peter [you are petros is different word to the word Jesus used petra]. Petros means a detached stone whereas Jesus used the term for a huge foundation Rock. Peter you are a stone but I will build my church on a solid rock. What was that solid Rock? It was Peters confession! What was that confession? "You are the Christ the son of God". That confession is not exclusive to the Roman Church, though they would like to think it so.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 12:46:09 PM
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Here we go again.

Hitler didn't act as a Darwinian because Darwin's book was one of those he banned. He refuted the idea of evolution in favour of the Biblical view of bloodlines and that's the basis of Aryanism.

As for quotes (and there are dozens) -

"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people" -Adolf Hitler, 27 October 1928

"The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were".... I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions" -Adolf Hitler, 26 April 1933

There are also several similar notes handwritten in his personal copy of the Bible.

As I mentioned elsewhere, Hitler didn't kill anybody personally. It was done willingly by individuals. What sort of person would gas women and children during the day and then happily go home to his own family at night? The same sort of person who would become a suicide bomber.
There could not have been that many fanatics available - these must have been fairly average people.

It takes the twisted deluded notion of Good fighting Evil to allow such things and that only comes from religion and not plain or perverse politics.

I doubt that no sane person will bomb a Mosque on the suggestion of Pauline Hanson but many others have bombed abortion clinics and murdered medical staff in the USA because of their religion beliefs.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 12:48:33 PM
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Re Is Mise: There was no "Catholic Church" in Christ's day to break away from. The Church of Rome was cobbled together by the murderous Roman tyrant Constantine using a rogue breakaway group within Christendom to serve as an auxiliary for his expanding wars against his own people and the rest of the world. The Church of Rome, re-branding itself as the "Catholic Church", has conducted a 17 century war against Christianity with a body count over the years to rival that of the followers of the genocidal desert bandit Mohammed.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 1:02:17 PM
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Those that hold Hitler a Christian, have not identified who his enemy were. They assume his opponents were not Christian; but take Hitler's view they were a godless underclass that needed eradication. One sided ignorance, Thousands from Australia joined up to stop Hitler who pledged loyalty to God, King and country. Of course the apologists of Hitler believe he was a devout Christian. Absolute nonsense!
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 1:33:15 PM
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