Cherful,

You seem to have stuck this into the wrong thread, but

"A chicken egg on your plate may be fertilised too, and contain all the genetic coding
to become a fully functioning chicken, but at the fertilised egg stage sitting on your plate it is not a chicken.

Many cellular divisions need to take place before it developes into a chicken...."

If it's on my plate then it's been cooked so there ain't gunna be any further development!

is Mise, we certainly have a few eggs on this thread, how do I respond to them all.

There are those who advocate out of control gun laws. you may not be one, maybe you can state your position, just for my edification if it is not as I say. According to the likes of Hassy if the 9 year old neighbors kid is making off with Hassy's chickens, Hassy shoots him dead, win win situation, no more egg shortage at the Hassy house, and the rest of the neighborhood kids have learn a valuable lesson, don't mess with Hassy!

Issy, I don't need to provide evidence of the multitude of suicides caused by pedophilia Catholic cleargy.

"Two leaked reports written by Ballarat Detective Kevin Carson said the church seems to have known about high rates of suicides over the last 50 years but has remained silent.

The reports listed at least 40 boys and young men who took their own lives following abuse by convicted paedophiles Brother Robert Charles Best and Father Gerald Ridsdale." The Courier 13th April 2012.

"Anyone who breaks into a house intends to kill the occupant(s), simple as that." Please provide evidence of that diabolical rubbish! Like all Greens and the rest of the responsible members of the community I have no tolerance for criminal acts, I believe we have an adequate, and appropriate, criminal justice system to deal with crime.

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Beach or LeoJ or whatever you are calling yourself these days on the forum, to save confusion I'll just refer to you as 'The Hansonite'.

These tedious, boring, monotonous, dull, uninteresting, unexciting, unvarying, mind-numbing, mindless, soul-destroying, humdrum, dreary, ho-hum, mundane, wearisome, wearying, tiresome, soporific, dry, as dry as dust, lifeless, colourless, uninspiring, flat, plodding, slow, banal, vapid, insipid, bland, lacklustre, prosaic, run-of-the-mill, pedestrian, jejune, leaden, I cant find a single word to describe these, anti Greens, anti Labor, anti progressive posts of yours. Iv'e got nothing to say other than don't be mealy mouthed, if you want to call David Shoebridge, David Shitbridge, do it, he is not going to sue you, don't be a pussy footer by using Sh**bridge. I wont think any less of you, you are at rock bottom now, cant go any lower.

Paul,

<There are those who advocate out of control gun laws. you may not be one, maybe you can state your position, just for my edification if it is not as I say>

I'm all in favour of gun control laws, but sane laws, not stupid ones; sane ones can be arrived at by consultation and evidence-based research.

Example: I recently bought a revolver chambered in .357 Magnum calibre, I would have preferred one in .44-40 Winchester (which is a considerably lower powered cartridge).
However, because I wish to use the pistol for open target shooting I am restricted to the more powerful round; had I wanted to use the pistol in the Western Action discipline I could have bought it in .44-40, but it could only be used in that discipline or for associated practice.

This silliness is also illustrated by the .38 S&W Special cartridge which is not restricted and the less powerful .38 Winchester which is; the .38 Special has a diametre of .357 inch whereas the .38 Win. is .401 inch.
The difference is .044 inch, or in other words 44 thousandths of an inch.
I've used the inch unit because that is the official State Government approved measurement regarding these cartridges.

more anon, just called to diner.

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<Issy, I don't need to provide evidence of the multitude of suicides caused by pedophilia Catholic cleargy.>

You do, as you have made the ridiculous allegation that there have been more suicides, related to abuse by catholic clergy than deaths of Australians by Muslims.
You made the allegation so you back it up.

<"Anyone who breaks into a house intends to kill the occupant(s), simple as that." Please provide evidence of that diabolical rubbish>

How is the householder (whoever) to know the intentions of the illegal intruder?

"I say, old chap, do you intend us harm?"

"BANG"

Householder falls dead.

Why should the householder have to run the risk that the illegal intruder has only benign intentions and does not intend murder and rape?

If an illegal intruder has good intentions and is killed, then bad luck; if he intended evil and is killed then the intended victim has the luck; which is as it should be.
The intruder knowingly broke the law and took the risks, the householder should not have to second-guess the intentions of the criminal.

< I have no tolerance for criminal acts, I believe we have an adequate, and appropriate, criminal justice system to deal with crime>
Commendable, Paul, but when a criminal intruder is in one's home and death may be seconds away, dialling "000" is not an option.
A murder takes seconds and the police are minutes away.

Hi Issy,

"I'm all in favour of gun control laws, but sane laws, not stupid ones; sane ones can be arrived at by consultation and evidence-based research."

I have no problem with that.

I do believe it is in the best interest of society to work to remove as many guns as possible out of the environment.

I oppose hunting as a blood sport, I do think it is not all that humane, but that is a moral issue with me, but you can probably argue differently . Target shooting, I really do not have a problem with it, other than the fact I want to remove as many guns as possible from society.

Gun crime, I want the full weight of the law used against those who would use guns to commit crime. That is reasonable position, I think you would agree with that.