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The dark side of the Hazelwood shutdown.
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 30 March 2017 5:30:38 PM
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SM,
You would achieve much more if you somehow managed to keep politics out of our energy security. Both sides of politics have a lot to answer. Blaming just the one side consistently does you no credit. It actually discourages further communication. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 30 March 2017 5:43:43 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,
You wrote; “That's exactly the problem, the engineers at the AEMO give solid advice and the douche bag visionless labor politicians ignore it.” Well let's see what douche bag visionless OLO posters do with solid AEMO advice. The government did seek the “advice of the independent Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO), which manages the National Electricity Market, on how this closure (of Hazelwood) will affect the secure supply of electricity.” AEMO “advised the electricity market will continue to operate reliably after the closure of Hazelwood.” Your response? Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 30 March 2017 6:44:53 PM
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Foxy,
Unfortunately, the problem is precisely that the networks and generation in some states has been managed according to ideology and not engineering, and in SA's case directly contrary to the advice of the AEMO engineers, with predictable consequences, with damage to the SA economy far exceeding the cost of the new interconnector, gas generator and batteries combined. That Vic is now doing the same now puts the whole network in jeopardy, and lo and behold, the offenders are always labor. SR, If certain douche bag posters read the statement properly they would know the difference between reliable day to day operation of the electricity market, and total network "reliability" in extreme conditions, which the AEMO warned of with respect to Hazelwood. Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 31 March 2017 10:02:51 AM
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Perhaps AEMO was privey to
http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Billion+Battery&qpvt=billion+battery&FORM=EWRE Sure hope it helps, but it's another step towards the black-hole that is renewables. Posted by Luciferase, Friday, 31 March 2017 12:02:20 PM
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From the ABC
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-31/victorians-warned-to-brace-for-blackout-risk-as-hazelwood-closes/8402446 "The shutdown of Hazelwood coal-fired power station in Victoria removed 1,600 megawatts of power from the system, or more than 20 per cent of the state's energy supply. Without Hazelwood, the national grid has become more vulnerable and the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) said on hot days with high demand there would be a shortfall of between 200 and 500 megawatts." So even the most left leaning news organisation recognises that there will be problems. Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 1 April 2017 5:56:06 PM
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That's exactly the problem, the engineers at the AEMO give solid advice and the douche bag visionless labor politicians ignore it.
That's how you cock up a network.