With the Turnbul government floundering around trying to decide how best to find an approach to this issue that pleases everyone (impossible), I have no doubt business leaders are dumbfounded with the lack of direction shown by Turnbul and his ministers.

They (business leaders) have no doubt spent countless hours and millions of dollars on submissions that were clearly of substance only to learn it was a waste of time, effort and money as regardless of what the so called 'interdependent umpire' came up with, the issue is still up in the air so as to say.

They must be thinking to themselves, why bother, and lets face it, who can really blame them.

This government needs to either grow some balls, or step aside and let someone show them the way, because business will only stand for so much before they say, "it's all just too hard". Then what!

You are a real bleeder. To mess with workers entitlement is fraught with danger. Wake up to yourself butch. If 50 percent coffee shops need to close up so be it..get over it.

Some employers are refusing to reduce the incomes of their employees and displaying the fact outside their businesses. I expect Rehctub will be among them, thus avoiding the uncertainty he complains of. You are, aren't you Rehctub?

Actually EJ my business is not effected by the rates as ours have not changed. Still 125% Saturdays and 150% Sundays however its the restaurants that have been most effected, so those who are closed now will stay closed, (no winners) and those who pay cash will continue to do so.

Doog, are you aware that prior to 2008 (Julia) the rates were where the commission has recomended they be. So how is that erroding workers rights. Where are the employers rights?

All employed people have a catagory they identify with and that does not discriminate.
Ad dot fiddling with the fair work commission that was at arms length from govt, was the controlling body.
Govt now think they can bypass that stumbling block.

Doog, the majority of employees are employed by small business, risk takers.

If you increase the risk, or as in this case, ignore their pleas, a lot of jobs are at potential risk. So be careful what you wish for.