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Should refugees and immigrants get more lenient sentences in courts
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Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 9:53:32 AM
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Dear Albie,
A great deal has changed in the past decades. New economic roles have brought many women greater equality with men and also many fresh opportunities. Particularly the chance to experience careers and achievements in the world beyond the home. For their part men have generally reacted positively to the growing equality of women. In fact in many cases their roles have become complimentary to those of women. Our society today is individualistic and highly open to change and experimentation. Men and women are able to explore a wide variety of possible roles. Today all sorts of options are becoming possible and equally acceptable for both sexes. Today, for many - a person's individual human qualities, rather than his or her biological sex is the primary measure of that person's worth and achievement. Of course society still has many problems as you point out. There is an astonishing amount of family violence - between spouses, between parents and offspring, and among the offspring themselves. We know that wives assault their husbands as often as husbands assault their wives, and spouses are equally likely to kill each other. Although wives are rarely a match for their husbands in a fistfight, they are more likely to use lethal weapons (kitchen knives). In most nonfatal physical violence between the spouses, however, wives are very much the victims, for wife-beating is a widespread and very serious problem. I won't even go into child-abuse. That too is alarmingly common and probably causes many of the million runaways that happen each year. Our law system definitely needs to be reformed. And the cuts to the family court system need to be stopped. I watched "Q and A" last night with George Brandis as a guest on the panel. He was pathetic. Same old political rhetoric. We need a new election - and soon, in this country. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 10:37:20 AM
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Dear Albie, I forgot to add that I am so sorry for your bad personal experiences. I wish you well in the future. May you find greater fulfillment in the years that lie ahead. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 10:47:24 AM
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Dear o sung wu,
Good to see you are still punching away. A question if I may. When the matter of someone refusing to stand in court was first addressed by then NSW Attorney-General Brad Hazzard he confirmed that refusing to stand for a judge “did not meet the threshold required for contempt of charges.” And it was noted by others in the profession; “It is also worth keeping in mind that the proposal is already highly political, and more in response to dog-whistling from the Daily Telegraph than a serious need for legislative reform in this area.” http://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/disrespectful-behaviour-in-court-to-be-a-crime/ In England when a similar incident occurred this was the exchange; "Appearing at Camberwell Green magistrates court in south London on Saturday, the woman indicated she would plead not guilty after refusing to stand in the dock before the district judge Susan Green. The defendant told the judge: “I’m sorry, it’s part of my religion, so I would prefer to sit down.” Judge Green responded: “I’m not going to argue. Get on with the case.”" http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/05/uk-woman-detained-turkey-kids-charged-abduction What is responsible for our proverbial bee in the bonnet? Why do you think it has got so much coverage here with so much confected outrage that we felt the need to go to all the trouble to change the law? Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 11:34:39 AM
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Cheers Foxy, yes I'd like to see a more honest representation of the facts.
The CSA/Family Court travesty needs a serious look at, but it is now so entrenched on the political gravy train for aspiring/practicing lawyers, psycho-babblers, counsellors, university Bachelors degrees in basket weaving etc, that I suspect even a Royal Commission somehow wouldn't be able to touch it. A generation on and the RC into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody has achieved little in reducing deaths. Similar results would be expected if we ever did investigate suicide rates in Australian males in the 16 -36 yr age bracket...the sum total of diddly squat ! Ditto with suicides amongst returning veterans. As I wrote, the whole thing is orchestrated, manipulated, concocted and by design aimed at reducing the family unit. Whoever is behind it will hopefully, in good time, be exposed and shown to all to be as greedy, corrupt and sinister as the agendas they promote. A-G Brandis, and before him A-G Ruddock, with all their predecessors going back to Whitlam and Lionel Murphy - all complicit in the creeping fascism I mentioned. The 1974 Family Law legislation, of which I have copies of the first readings and subsequent bills as read to parliament. At it's heart all seemed benign, beneficent and for the good of children, but upon flowering the plant became a toxic weed infesting every facet of family life from the day it was enacted. Like Lantana it is difficult to navigate, and entirely consuming wherever its tendrils reach. I can only hope and pray that my sons do not have to hack their way through it during their lives. Back to the thread...yes, my "opinion" as this OLO, is that when in Rome you do as the Romans do, you learn the lingua franca, you assimilate and you obey the laws of the land...just as I would expect to do in whichever country the Islamic faith has rule. Simple as, you do drugs in Bali, you get caught, you get executed. Do adultery in Saudi Arabia you get stoned to death....easy peasy Japanesy ! Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 11:40:41 AM
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Dear Albie,
I always read your posts with great interest. Please keep up the good work. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:08:33 PM
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So we ponder the prevalence in (western) culture regarding lgbti relationships, anal sex, the greater number of child abuse cases being reported and the social experiment(s) carried out by proxy via the Family Court, Child Support agency and vested interests. The ‘Wimmins Industry’ shovelling their vitriol down our throats, per Hollywood, the MSM and news stand magazines …?
Rosie Batty became the 'chosen megaphone' here in Australia.The feminazis had a new champion.
See below from: http://www.deltabravo.net/cms/plugins/content/content.php?content.23
Propaganda began with "male bashing." Every male had to find his "feminine" side. "Insensitive men" were given politically correct labels which included chauvinist, deadbeat dad, batterer, rapist, and sexual predator.
Media blitzes and pop feminist literature beat up men who worked long hours. Men didn't spend enough time with their children, wives, or girlfriends. A requirement of a good father was mandatory attendance at birthing classes and birth of children. To assure future pop feminist goals, bonding became important for feminists. "Bonding" and "quality time" were new buzz words used by pop feminists.
Fathers experienced fatherhood from a new perspective unknown to their predecessors. It became apparent fathers did make great parents. Soon, pop feminists began using children as pawns and tools to control men.
Criticism, control, and sensitivity indoctrination persisted until almost every male trait was eliminated. Men started exhibiting effeminate traits, and being "male" was no longer socially acceptable.
See also:
http://cannold.com/static/files/assets/78c33a24/sperm-wars-book-2005.pdf
http://mensrights.com.au/hot-topics/why-men-feel-aggrieved-in-family-court-interventions/
http://www.dadsontheair.com.au/family-law/
http://www.suffragents.org/myths-about-domestic-abuse
BTW Foxy, being one of those "hidden statistics" & by my very existence, never mentioned because we dare not challenge the status quo by raising our heads above the parapet, for the Wimmins Industry has many snipers - all ready and primed in so, so many facets of our lives, to take us out at the knees. Or with a head shot if necessary.
What we see today in fact is the rise of creeping fascism, now exhibited against every voice of protest, valid or not. It's not a about Islam, Gay Rights or even about freedoms per se...it's all about social control by reducing or removing 'family units' and all about conformity.