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I present my assumed good interpretation of selective parts of Donald Trump's US January 20, inaugural speech. In part of the speech Donald Trump said, “an education system flushed with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge”.

Tenth picture down on right on the below abc.net attachment.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-21/donald-trump-inaugural-address-in-full/8199904

I give credit to ABC Saturday January 21, evening news for being the only television network (that I could have possibly watched), to have selected that sentence as a sample for that Saturday evening sample presentation of Donald Trump's inaugural speech, all remaining networks failed to include the sample sentence, which I see as an important sentence in Trump's inaugural speech.

The above Donald Trump inaugural school education sentence... directly after following sentence, “and the crime and the gangs and the drugs, that have stolen too many lives, that have robbed our country of so much realised potential... this American carnage stops right here and stops right now” (audience applause). “we are one nation, and their pain is our pain, their dreams are our dreams, their success will be our success. We share one heart and one home and one glorious destiny”.

Placing: education; crime; gangs; drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of realised potential, that could be suddenly ended by the introduction of a new president, as though what's happening was a political policy, seems to be that all the bad things were establishment, politically intentional.

A lot more to come...
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 11:36:41 AM
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All reading ideas will come together further down the posts:

Entertainment programs: Family Feud; The Chase; Millionaire Hot Seat; going back to 1960s BP Pick A Box with Barry Jones winning most of the prize money. Waste of time unrelated to each other information has no reference to making financial and/or skilful behaviour career decisions. Celebrity interviews dummying down relevant learning criteria. Can't learn from stories actor entertainers' comical memorised experiences.

Under the US constitution, Citizens have the freedom to practice the religion of their choice.
I PVR capture, to scan through several Sunday morning religious programs. These religious programs not only have different styles of presentation. My several quick scans suggest to me that each evangelist have few varying convictions. “it is written” host wants listeners to be aware of false ministers' sermons, for they do the devil's work... thereafter, continue to minister to program audience listeners.

Several months ago, I heard one religious presenter devoting his sermon to telling his congregation that god never tells lies, that god will always tell you the truth, as though adult audience parishioners were hearing voices from god delusions, that parishioners should believe what delusional god voices are telling them.

I PVR capture Pastor Joel Osteem: “joelosteen.com” for his “I like to begin with something funny”, joke. On Sunday January 22, 2016 Joel Osteen was telling the many seen in that auditorium in the attachment below, “not to worry”, giving many examples which may worry people relating to finance and business concerns, “don't worry, whatever happens, whatever goes wrong, god will reward you at some other time, that god has a plan for you.

I didn't bother to compare below attachment with my Sunday morning PVR hearing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y_AUsUmCEM

Really big auditorium smooth sounding Joel Osteen gets to speak in, with not many empty seats? The filled to capacity Texas auditorium is a sample of Joel Osteen's large devoted following.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 2:27:12 PM
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I have heard a number of convincingly wise sounding sermons related to psychology that I assume many television documentary presenters on human brain behaviour would agree with, yet mixing well presented sermons on human behaviour in which audiences can understand and appreciate with god and bible paragraphs readings, which many parishioners bring their own bible to lookup selected paragraphs. Rational argument would express, “feel good presented sermons doesn't prove a magical god exists.

My assertion is that schools consume valuable thinking time with spelling words over and over, maths literacy skills, that developing brains are so holding onto their childish emotionally intelligent thoughts, depriving students of an ability to question doubtful assumptions, any length of rationalised thought required to solve a problem feels horrible, described as worrying.

Guaranteed under the US constitution religious freedom, ministers can say what they like without government and/or judicial interference. My assertions are that school education, religion and scripted media are used to keep working class peasants dumb by depriving humans spare moments of intellectual thought. Radio; print media; television, entertainment programs selectively script all manner of programming limited criteria, which is why serious news programs favours: tragedies; murders; politics; over the top science; sports.

I have already mentioned children's programs through to adult news and entertainment programs are devoted to keeping peasant working class dumb, thought deprived, under the idea that media program entertainments are guided by audience ratings, commercial advertising profit making revenue. Children are born into a society with these ideas fixed in place, understanding simple concepts from the beginning. An establishment controlling political power; market crashes; constant spooking resulting in nothing happening, all too complex to be considered in any more than a single answer to a simple question required complex thought process.

The most obvious for audiences to take notice of, that being news. News are often scandals, murders and crime. Because news is 'as it happens', there is no relevant knowledge gained from remembering scandals, murders and detailed selective information on criminal activities.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 2:31:26 PM
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Workers compete for the better employment opportunities. Grading students in A; B; C; D, classes, grades long term future employment opportunities. “A” graders both parents and students aren't going to complain when their perceived to be leading the aged school students year. All class grades students thoughts are guided by teachers on number and word forming letter symbols, exhausting brain neuron connections on simple non-rational simplest thoughts, keeping students busily distracted from allowing students time for complex analysing thought. Students become more concerned about how they feel, while under the control of school teachers who fear change.

The lack of complex thought working class parents are concerned about 13 years of baby sitting and obtaining that precious education HSC for future ever increasingly difficult to obtain: easy labour; better rewarding employment.

Adults occupying good employment would fear younger: better educated; better at adapting to problem thinkers, more intelligent workers replacing them, leaving older adult workers in lower level employment, and/or out of work on unemployment servicing rent or a mortgage. PBS Newshour reports, USA has many elderly out of work executives deemed by corporate employers to be too old and too out of date for new posting executive paid employment.

Government and corporate middle and upper management would be well aware and object to all school students receiving my version of a: low stress; no hurrying; less competitive to fail, traumatising school education.

South Korean company Samsung failed fire prone washing machines and mobile phone batteries suddenly exploding into a fiery inferno. Fifth largest container shipping company Hanjin declaring bankruptcy.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-28/collapse-of-hanjin-tip-of-shipping-industry-iceberg/8064686

All the education South Korea forces onto students, students having a high suicide rate. South Korean' leaders sense of political will to allow South Korean citizen individual thought, when I theorise ruling class establishments for centuries have used school education as a platform for dummying down industrial worker society into brain starved for thought zombies. Under the pressure of forced work, South Korean corporate management are making (don't want to worry) mistakes, leading to product recalls and major miscalculation investment in container carrying ships.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 2:34:39 PM
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The Post Second World War baby boom generation retirement investments are supposedly spread through many international companies. The owing $8 billion debt I assume comes out of many retirement fund accounts. Other overly borrowed container shipping companies mentioned in above attachment are on the edge of bankruptcy merely need large countries trade tariff disputes to send them into bankruptcy.

U.S. evangelist preachers convincing audiences to “don't worry, be happy” regardless of the many financial market warning stories, market index volatility that over time always goes higher. Don't worry, if large losses are occurring, god will see you right after starting over again.

School education: don't think, keep studying, Zombie-ism.
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The above Donald Trump inaugural school education sentence... directly after following sentence “and the crime and the gangs and the drugs, that have stolen too many lives, that have robbed our country of so much realised potential... this American carnage stops right here and stops right now” … …. seems to be that all the bad things were establishment, politically intentional.

Mentioned employed workers: police; legal professions; corporate jails; manufacturing fire arms and sales are built around arresting and locking badly educated self-medicating bored non-violent drug users in jail.
PBS Newshour stated, presently 44,000 police are stationed in US schools. Many of those police stationed in US schools are abusing/arresting students for merely having playful activities between classes. Give dumb badly educated adults authoritarian uniforms and arrest quotas to indicate to hirer ranked employers, police station appointments are necessary.

This is all a “Garden of Eden” church survival of the fittest ideology leaders putting a bit of chaos-god back into society, natural selection. The ideology most always suits the people already on top of the food chain, meaning the wealthy establishment ruling class, the predator class.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 2:37:59 PM
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My theory, that after the second World War, once the many post First World War baby boom generation came home from WW2, rather than return to pre-war natural order supply and demand economic depression, a new beginning: built many wood clad houses; built many highways and multiple lane free-ways for motor vehicle transport, eventually building thousands of B52 bombers and minute men nuclear missile launching bunkers. I theorise The Cold War was merely a propaganda conspiracy lie between nuclear powers creating a getting ready for war economy, consuming spare estimated unused adult labour.
Korean and Vietnam wars were merely consuming “coming of age” adult labour, while manufacturing military armaments. When commercial aircraft became viable, building airports and commercial aircraft, transferring air-force military personnel to commercial airline companies, removed increasing need for expanding cold war politics and military armaments.

Present day freedom to gain visas and buy affordable air-line tickets to many countries has more to do with thousands of years of alternative to left over unused man power turned into militarism, increasing a variety of non-military employment based around commercialised affordable freedom to travel.

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Like Ancient Roman Empire Hadrian's Wall, many Roman soldiers did guard duty and Great Wall of China soldiers did guard duty. Well organised great empires not needing male labour for constant essential services, were placed on militarised guard duty.

Today's US police forces battling illegal drug use, are harassing unwanted “educated to fail” predominately Negro labourers into inner city suburbs and 44,000 police stationed in US schools, policing employment US's own citizens is little different than Cold War guard duty, flying B52 bombers ready for Russian nuclear missile attack. Constant nuclear war fears, “don't worry, be happy” god will save believers from afterlife hell.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 2:40:17 PM
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I concluded these difficult to prove theories, by ignoring any truth in spoken media histories by simply attaching no emotional stimulant to statements. Documentary images and by merely being aware of thinkable probabilities. If there was no Cold War militarism, US government maintaining a large military force, conscripting young school leavers into military service to die in Vietnam based on some communist domino theory, justifying boot camp abuse conditioning, feeling good about fighting for and/or defending your country. Capable of thinking less traumatised by school education citizenry would complain, demanding better government services (affordable medical care) for working class citizenry.

Hence, I don't expect much change from Donald Trump's inaugural statements predictions regarding education. Once US American labour fixes infrastructure; builds the Great Wall of America border wall with Mexico, all the old drug war tactics since the Vietnam War, drug war police guard duty will return.

More thinking awareness people will realise past believed truths exampling Apollo missions to the moon were lies. NASA probe missions to Mars and Pluto are lies.

Professional tennis players are playing to audience building up expectations of tennis ball hitting varying length of rallies, audiences entertainment value: enthusiasm; expectations; curiosity. Professional tennis players seen returning tennis balls within opposing player's ability to return tennis balls back to opposing player, lengthening rallies to increase audience entertainment pleasures. Hate to think, thinking perceived as worrying, paying ticket audience's enthusiasm is far more important than which players truly eventually wins tennis matches.

Professional cricket players armed with a four inch wide cricket bat, hitting cricket balls in all directions at various distances, seen attempting to hit every cricket ball bowled at batsmen. A game designed for any person, particularly children to play, under trained Donald Bradman trained skilled expertise, professional cricket is a staged entertainment comedy of errors, which working class audiences can judge many different self-judged believed intelligent opinions.

Fewer people suffering from educational mental trauma issues, more rational decision makers I assume will consume less alcohol reducing the alcohol industry.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 2:49:58 PM
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Intelligent working class work force more capable of making wiser decisions borrowing money from banks to purchase property, buying at the correct time rather than being drawn into low interest payment loan boom periods, would be less likely to default on loans.

Influenced by rational decisions and far less of emotional decisions anxiety and stimulative feels good rewards. Gambling industry will fade; sports enthusiasm will fade; more owner builders building their own homes, fewer tax paying building companies.

A fear should be that humans become so influenced by emotional anxiety and self-gratifying stimulative rewards which a say is caused by established education, children not being allowed to mature intelligence, that society be so efficient food produces, company corporatism for profits, chasing new customers; an overall desire to feel charitable and morally forthright; countries exampling Africa, will have many children crude oil and gas fields are capable of producing food productive fertilisers. Machinery efficient farmers supplied with cheap chemical fertilisers are keen to grow as much food as possible.

Human success in food production and scientific development will solve problems, leads to uncontrolled third world population growth migration into western countries. That those badly educated emotional decision makers, religiously incorrect, morally good feeling charitable beliefs, will refuse to see decisions similar to Donald Trumps ideas as good for long term for all countries concerned, stability.

The many people whom believe in a magical god, believe god is good. Yet what is good to a short term feel good now, easily confused by twisted analogies, preached by predominately self-interested preaching television evangelists.

My statements relating to post Second World War: Cold War; Korean War; Vietnam War... any more than 3 second of consideration leads to regretful worrying, which then leads to “don't worry, be happy” theory rejections.
Posted by steve101, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 2:53:23 PM
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Hey Stevi, let us know when you need to take a breath! Perhaps someone else will get a word in as well.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 5:38:54 PM
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Hey, is it just me, or is this thread a bit of an echo chamber...

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Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 5:47:17 PM
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The overall establishment middle management in fear of competing against better thinking, broader minded, discovering mistakes in previous work, younger employees, are going to reject change: organise street march protests over unrelated to education proposed legislation; redirect important political issues onto trivial political processes as is often done now; reject rational argument using simple comments in defence of keeping everything the same.
Media will report the many protests “as it happens” with little well thought out intellectual opinion as media has always done in the past.

Willingness to protest for our many poorly thought out beliefs on human rights, the moral right thing to do, will be our slow to realise demise.

At times, revolutionary leaders throwing out old political systems “the Tsar” have also thrown out religions.
Before modern media influences, religious leaders as part of the establishment used religion as a source of pulpit persuasion, holding existing system in political power.

Catholic religion has many pagan rituals when compared to other Abraham god rituals, are incorrect. The Sabbath is arguably on a Saturday, that Mary Magdalene found Jesus temple empty on a Sunday morning due to Jesus mythically rose on a Saturday evening.

I speculate that Catholic and Protestant religion is so intentionally formulated with conflicting information, allowing any person with an intellectual curiosity, (an ability to lead gullible people) on pointing out conflicting information, will have been exposed for heresy and gotten rid of, warning other similar developing intelligence in fear of punishment to follow existing church leaders without opposition. Jesus story.

Conflicting information, poorly worded bible scripture paragraphs needing supposedly expert minister interpretation, ministers gain influence over congregations by interpreting scriptures, adding other influences guiding congregations on ministers personal and/or whoever pays money, preaching political beliefs. Pastor Joel Osteen in need of sermon ideas, could be financially persuaded to preach “don't worry, be happy” on financial matters.

School education's not to think and/or analyse readings being that readings are often “as it happens” stories that have no real analysing value, on reading bible scriptures, paragraphs use vague moral basics, reading 10 commandments, plus 30 follow-up commandments.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 2:53:17 PM
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I speculate, religion was chosen by Pagan Roman rulers for reasons of controlling the masses with promises of an afterlife lies, that were already believed by existing Christians. Today's Christians wouldn't recognise Christianity 1500 ago.

In times of citizenry unrest: out of control chaotic population... Adolf Hitler similarities: capable of speaking to crowds as religious leaders, emotionally flushed with power, will promise fixes they can't provide, that believers of religion will merely be lead towards a similar to now Middle Eastern Islamic solution: killing each other; lots of praying; inviting in foreign governments on some lie (weapons of mass destruction) into populated locations to harass local citizens; to starve out citizens; to destroy buildings; to scatter citizenry into refugee camps, much of which doesn't completely solve population growth problems. What I theorise happens, is that religious leaders feed their own ego that they are needed as though the more believers think of god the more god becomes more powerful, “Clash Of The Titans” movies. Whether religious leaders believe war like crisis guides people towards god in heaven and/or “god the father” god the father being religious leaders, is an argument I suggest religious leaders find amusing.

Why I constantly say, aged 5 years children are too emotionally immature to be traumatised by boredom and forced academic tasks using go nowhere now irrelevant knowledge, children easily persuaded by feel good promises distractions, no pressure to conform to religions and/or dummying sports.

A more mature experienced in arguing relevant topics accounting for many relevant side issues, thoughts not influenced by charming soothsayers' moralising sin forgiving words... mature thought can quickly determine realistic concepts. The more such people capable of arguing rational concepts, discarding irrelevant side issue distractions, the more human society will avoid the Apocalypse predictions several television evangelists are so keen to predict.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 2:55:12 PM
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I speculate, beneficiaries of crime ridden societies, are leaders promising to protect citizenry from crime's ridden bad effects. The suggestion that the CIA was responsible for getting Vietnam veterans addicted to illegal drugs, that US pharmaceutical companies had been well aware of long term chemical addictive effects on US citizenry being overly prescribed pharmaceutical company opiates, leading to citizenry drug addiction for both legal and illegal drugs. That similar solutions with Vietnam soldiers, which Vietnam War wasn't officially considered a war, instead called a police action and that third millennium Middle East military personnel on patrol, is more police action, than resolving a war. Similar police action, US police action tactics patrolling US inner city streets looking for drug users and criminal activities, solution for solving too higher US unemployment and racial employment white skin favouritism, police driving unwanted labour citizenry into inner cities as Donald Trump mentioned in his inaugural speech, is (intentionally) happening to US citizens by Barack Obama democratic party president, which Donald Trump states is going to stop now. Which I say is politically intentional, that drug use and police guard duty to an extent is happening in Australia.

All the warnings on how consuming feel good drugs leads to drug addictions, that anxiety to consume feel good drugs will increase. Myself being news and story entertainment watcher, I rarely find any anti drug addiction stories. What media stories provide are police chasing gang criminal drug dealers and smuggler hand overs. Stories imitate what independent from government influence as though viewers were having vague beliefs guided away from government political support, which no doubt educated busy people want to believe. So believed by many people that establishment has no involvement in illegal drug supplies, movies have story lines on government/CIA involvement. Educated people miss and/or quickly judge, “Hollywood movies don't depict true/realistic ideas”.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 2:59:47 PM
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Aged 5 years children while under adult speed speaking adult teachers, guiding young children's activities. Adults can't be aware and/or told not to be concerned, how mental stress in children gradually builds, guiding children to solve anxiety, mental stress hurrying issues, childhood building memory neuron connections primary instincts to feel they need to feel good now... solving hurrying simple tasks hour after hour for many more years, constantly reinforcing subconscious needs to feel good, finally ending schooling aged 18 years, an age when consuming as much alcohol as desired, becomes legal.

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Capitalist company/corporation management legal obligation to maximise company account balance sheet profits, management rewarded with monetary bonuses. Technology in extracting coal/shale gas using cracking methods, has lowered energy costs and increased supplies of chemical fertilisers.

Chemical fertiliser companies and wholesale market food suppliers, exampling Monsanto, encouraging farmers to produce as much food as possible. Lobbyists working for global wholesale food corporations, exampling Monsanto, Lobby industrial rich country government politicians and/or the establishment to pay for food, Monsanto supplies, as food aid to third world countries: Africa; India; Indonesia; Philippines; food for oil Middle East; etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

Cheap, adequate food supplies in third world countries reduces need for third world populations to grow their on food, needing/creating fewer children to increase numbers of hands to help increase family food supplies.

The more third world refugees escaping conflict caused by over population, escaping to Europe, eventually Europe open borders policy has Australia asked to except more refugees.

Capitalism works best on population growth. The only saleable plentiful item of real importance to poverty stricken people is food.

Government leaders are using citizenry tax payer funds to satisfy large global corporations desires to make share holder profits, and executive commissions, using cheap food argument slows third world population growth.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 3:01:57 PM
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Hey, Steve. Why don't you write an article or essay on whatever takes your fancy and send it send it to Graham for possible publication. Anything longer than a couple of 300 hundred posts puts readers off, I believe. Let's read it all in one go. 800 plus words is the go, I think.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 3:05:53 PM
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I assume ancient Roman and Chinese soldiers didn't like guard duty on walls to the point of suffering a miserable life, to be rewarded with mere terrible food.
Several SBS documentaries have been shown describing Hadrian's Wall Roman Empire soldiers stationed distances along the wall. Great Wall of China documentary has the wall described as many numbers of peasants working, dying while building the wall. Soldiers ready to fight Mongolians attacking the wall. Documentary states Chinese leaders refused to trade with Mongolians who wanted rice which China had more rice than was needed. Chinese leaders refusing to trade, Mongolians raided Chinese villages, stealing food. Chinese leaders built the wall, stationing soldiers on the wall. The documentary story can easily be assumed that Chinese leaders wanted Mongolians to harass Chinese peasants allowing excuses to build the wall, manning the wall with soldiers.

I see these documentaries as indicating what present day military and inner city guard duty policing is about, that being that spare labour was placed in some defending the nation from enemies. The war on terror out side US and war on drugs inside US. Both I suggest are intentionally created for legalised harassing and justifying militarism. Terrorists harass Middle Eastern peasants for some difficult to explain “god is great” reason, men keen to serve god fail to have more babies than if they were mere food producing peasants.

Modern day refugees willing to risk their lives by venturing across The Mediterranean in over crowded life-rafts to enter an uncertain future. The problems of poverty reflect on the reasons Jesus religion had Jesus born in a manger, a feeding device in a stable.

steve101
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 3:07:48 PM
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this is far more Steve 101 speech than Donald Trump. I doubt whether Donald could talk that long.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 4:47:43 PM
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and what to say about the novelties introduced by TRUMP?
Posted by rikus, Thursday, 2 February 2017 9:09:26 PM
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February 3, ABC television Breakfast and Morning News run a short news report on a recent Australian National University study, on stated 7890 adults, on how too many hours working per week in employment and household tasks, allowing for child care, effects human: depression; suicide and other mental illnesses. The study did not include school aged children and/or teenagers, which I argue would have been a 90% major consideration on how human brains: feels; memorises; behaves during and after working hours.
http://theconversation.com/work-hour-limits-need-to-change-for-better-mental-health-and-gender-equality-71999

and:
http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/work/2017/02/02/working-week-hours-study/

and:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/working-more-than-39-hours-a-week-is-bad-for-your-health-anu-study-20170202-gu45d7.html

and:
http://www.sciencealert.com/study-suggests-working-more-than-39-hours-a-week-is-bad-for-you

Having read a few Internet website samples, published data seems to reach an overall employment work hours limit of 39 hours, suggesting allowances for differences between male/female gender specific domestic tasks, altering employment hours worked weekly limits before depression, work exhaustion becomes an issue.
I theorise, because most adults work more than 39 hours, perform domestic tasks, plus travel to and from work... was this study created as evidence to redirect adult mental health issues solely onto the number of employment hours worked rather than school education? Being that the study was carried out by a government education department curriculum set university.

No doubt work hours being a popular reading for adult workers, being that readers work, yet comments are not broad in detail, no real new discoveries workers didn't already realise.

Good question maybe are schools and universities run by management staff similar to that of false and redirecting information supplying banks?

Alcohol consumption must be a major consideration as alcohol is a depressant, next morning hangovers. After employees have finished each day's weekday employment, how much alternative activities used to distract employment stress/fatigue build up, left over from the night before hangover, is spent with friends (dancing, pub craws) under the influences of alcohol and/or drugs.
Posted by steve101, Monday, 6 February 2017 10:56:44 AM
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Data came from more women than men aged from 24 to 64. Prier ages to aged 24 years, are where most problems begin and lead to older aged problems. During younger ages than 24 years, once type of employment is chosen workers are generally stuck with their employment choice. That 13 years students spent in classrooms was very much about working the working class to turn up at school every school day and work to what teachers told students to do. If students weren't working, students merely sit and wait for a teacher to tell them what to do. Adults reading news stories to be told what to believe.

I could theorise many employment tasks are far less mentally stressful and less boring which could be blamed for depression than non employment tasks and entertainments, exampling last resort (physically resting) television stories can be very boring to watch, having 1/3 commercials, which can partly be responsible for mental illnesses, which for television and other nothing better to do reasons, why many workers don't wish to retire.

The idea of a “Men's Shed” is about work. The idea about me spending considerable time typing out what I consider to be thought provoking readings is about easy to perform work.

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When media report such news, beginning with some short statistical evidence, suddenly listeners and readers are fed some one or two personal story(s). I find one off story examples: hurried; quick flashing scenes; obvious; inconclusive; personal beliefs; expressing emotional distress; too simple to be of value. Often there are no follow up conclusions, exampling big noise bank inquiries.

Journalists are more event reporters using good English gramma skills, reporting “as it happens” scripted by spin doctor dramas. Adam from Adam Ruins Everything, while doing movie stars' dress choices, had a short segment on “reality shows” script writer demonstrated how he chose spoken lines from a book, indicating spoken insults were scripted.

A point that the day after an extremely hot day, media announce data that 2016 was the hottest day on record, can indicate by the timing, that stories are fabricated
Posted by steve101, Monday, 6 February 2017 11:00:47 AM
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Merely watching sports during weekends, anticipation with bursts of enthusiasm, induces endorphins rewarding feelings in the brain, leading to exhausting/depleting brain's pituitary gland's feel good chemical endorphins. Manufactured by (pea size) pituitary gland's number of chemicals referred to as endorphins... I speculate human attempts to induce above normal emotional bias “fun” levels of endorphins, creates bipolar fun-character-behaviour happiness knee-jerk reaction behavioural addictions. I googled “endorphins cause mental depression” to find one of my own “My steve9” readings, posted (not by me) as a googled bottom of the first page reading:
http://www.psychforums.com/living-with-mental-illness/topic187100.html

If the university study was a question A to F study, the study is limited to whoever formulated the study to suit their own biased results. If the human subjects under study were not a true percentage types of money earning work: farmers; steel workers; taxi cab drivers; fast food workers; council workers... the study is worthless. The fact that important ages 5 to 23 years were excluded from the study suggests quick responding judgemental propaganda-like conclusions on depression and mental illness towards blaming adult aged long hours employment.

On that same February 3, morning, following ABC News Morning, “One Plus One” had Margaret Court express in parts of her interview how she was over worked, becoming depressed, convinced her to take up religion. That religion placed her on a different track, of a calmer behaviour, (I am not promoting religion):
http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/one-plus-one/NU1741H001S00

Unless humans subjects under study were meditating in their spare time under no self-medicating influences, that all work employment tasks were represented in percentage terms. A large number of people participating in the study was not important.

I suggest the study is almost not worth mentioning, unless extensive details are included, in what employment was most undesirable, yet as a quick news worthy item, extensive details are not mentioned, only selected poorly detailed “more than 39 hours of employment work leads to depression and other mental illnesses”.
Posted by steve101, Monday, 6 February 2017 11:04:06 AM
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If such studies are worthless, than monitoring global temperatures to determine whether overall global temperatures are increasing. I suggest that as most collected temperatures are monitored within city and town boundary limits, as housing and roads increase: roof top tiles and black tar road surfaces; increasing road traffic delays' to and from employment, motor vehicle hot exhaust gases made worse during no windy days, will destroy any real comparison data with previous decades of collected data temperatures. 2016 may have been the highest collected data on temperatures on recorded history, while actual Earth temperatures could be falling.

My personal theory could be that Earth oceans are solely responsible for Earth's temperature. Without oceans, Earth's temperature would be that of the moon, believed 125C. That only air temperatures not humidity blowing off oceans should indicate to average curios people whether Earth's temperature is rising. If too many winds blow in from deserts, and/or from northern oceans, average recorded temperatures will no doubt rise.

An extra hot day experienced more than 2 weeks ago on the east coast of NSW. Day after, media announced data on 2016 being the hottest year ever recorded. I heard a relevant related comment that previously collected data on locations showing below 40 degree freezing temperatures were now recording below 10 degree temperatures. Data was said to be supplied by NASA and temperature stations across the world.

I accuse NASA of being a big liar on far away space probes, seeing a NASA spokes person woman jumping up and down with childish enthusiasm as evidence that a space probe on an asteroid travelling at extremely fast speeds, space probe being millions of miles away from Earth's radio communication magnetic field reduced Sun charged particle barrier, space probes affected by millions of miles between radio wave receivers and transmitters. The Sun's charged particle radio noise, destroying weak radio transmissions, weaker still by the time radio waves reach Earth, which I say having technically understood radio wave receiving, radio waves will not reach earth... existed. The fairy tales most technically ignorant gullible people will believe.
Posted by steve101, Monday, 6 February 2017 11:06:12 AM
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Donald Trump's statement “an education system flushed with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge”.

When educated adults eventually read real correctly detailed knowledge, knowledge is quickly ignored because previously forced on school students' incorrectly provided knowledge, messing with hurried students sense of caring curiosity, as the establishment's purpose of school was to punish students for having child-like curiosity. The depth human curiosity merely extends to headline comments to both acknowledging and providing information, relying no some idea that everyone concerned will understand what was meant.

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Posted by steve101, Monday, 6 February 2017 11:08:57 AM
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I bring reader's attention to weekdays Monday February 6, ABC Media Watch, devoted to fake news.
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s4615275.htm

Host Paul Barry devotes his attention to Internet posts, exampling several posters whom post outrageous fake facts.

What directs me to type up a reading is that Paul Barry backed up claims that fake post readers read what they want to read, what they want believe; that even after fake stories are exposed, traces of belief remain in people memories.

Paul Barry suggest people should select more main stream media for truthful stories.

Paul Barry by accusing non-main steam of faking stories, adds credibility to main stream media, particularly the ABC. Acting out the good guy by exposing bad guys.

I suggest the difference is that Internet fake posters don't have the influence to get politicians and other famous people to act out dysfunctional, bad reflection on built up image behaviours and scenes to allow media to report such news, which reader/watchers of news are so keen to read and/or see.

My accusations of fake news are exampled in federal and USA presidential politics. The popularity of leaders is most often described by how Donald Trump won the presidential election. Even though electioneering poles and political commentators had Trump losing, Trump won the election. Donald Trump makes better entertaining outrageous headline news than slow to respond rehearsed Hillary Clinton.

To describe alternative professions for federal parliament front bench politicians, I recommend horse race, race calling. To see Malcolm Turnbull stand up during question time and rant using short one line statements strung together as though Malcolm was calling a horse race, accusing the opposition of while they were in office, they failed to fund whatever item the question was asked. By the end of ranting, indicating the liberal party is the race winner. Malcolm Turnbull is merely an example, in that all past prime ministers to my memory ranted on at race-call speeds adding to listeners excitement portraying leadership to those whom need feel decisions before believing what's wanted to be believed, in question time, is the separation between parties and political process.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 12:37:29 PM
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Parliament question time I suggest is how media get to say how prime ministers are good parliament debating performers. People other than the emotionally stupid would not agree, calling front bench politicians horse race race callers if they had thought of the comparisons.

My accusation is this is where fake stories (by faking performances) start, allowing media to report as it happens news stories. That referred to as expert political commentators vaguely rant on about politicians predicted intentions and beliefs, where over time, more frequently than not, nothing happens. Because often nothing happens, I strongly suggest rolled over stories are faked dramas from the very beginning.

The headline moralising do-good intentions of faked dramas, by a speck of intelligent thought that stories are faked, glimmers of quick judgements stick in readers and listeners memories.

Donald Trump has no need to be seen allowing media opportunities to create news stories which must eventually wear down the desires for present attention givers to pay any future ongoing attention. Audiences can only care about so many Apollo moon landings, to a point where having Apollo 13 fake a crisis, bring back audiences attention. The Apollo 13 movie stated how audiences were becoming bored with moon landings, which I suggest was an indication that 13 being an superstitious unlucky number, faked Apollo 13 as a crisis, keeping with the curse the number 13 has. Embarrassing failures expose open media free hand to report all that goes wrong, compared to how Soviets hide all embarrassing failures, I suggest, more important establishment (no free market forces to blame) damning secrets go unreported.

Richard Nixon's Watergate scandal was one of the most positive propaganda promoting real democracy and media separation from the political system dramas, which should have been realised by intelligent people when stated reel to reel tapes were recording every Nixon word in the oval office, that Nixon was reported to have had no idea he was being recorded. Recording equipment secretly put in the next room to the oval office by John F. Kennedy.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 12:39:47 PM
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Last week, on SBS Viceland, I saw a on Vice News, that USA banks require all opening depositing account holders to sign a document statement preventing depositors from taking legal action against banks. Wells Fargo is having class action brought against them for staff having provided bad information leading to customer financial losses.
There are several class actions against Wells Fargo, easier to google “class action against wells fargo”.

On February 3, ABC Breakfast around 8.20 AM finance report, guest James Kirby: Wealth Editor, The Australian, on class actions, James Kirby said, “class actions are-are now so common, there was a time when class actions really meant something, it was a big deal when you saw one. They've been four, just in the last week or so...” later in the interview, stringing one liners, James Kirby said, “they're on going, there are so many of them, I don't think, if it keeps up like this, in a year or two it will be like the U.S., you only mention ones that are particularly large”. further information was more specific to individual companies not require for my argument.

What can be read in the below (whether false information fake report or not) about 2014 news item post:
“In the past year, shareholder class actions alone accounted for $480 million in settlement payouts by Australian companies”.
http://www.quinnemanuel.com/the-firm/news-events/article-february-2014-overview-of-the-class-action-regime-in-australia/

Money is the closest real (grab hold of) thing to god as a god will ever get. People praying to god to obtain what they want to increase monetary success and purchased resources. Many religious people may see donating money to religions as paying due taxes to god for their god given monetary success.

Several movie stories on courtroom justice may to many people seem realistic justice. Aside from the story drama, justice is served. Television series: The Good Wife, shows courtroom drama each week the series is running, beginning in September 2009, soon after 2008 GFC. The series last episodes showed criminal justice bond court's as fast moving no-one cares innocent or guilty justice system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Wife
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 12:42:41 PM
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My argument here is that in all television programs, as I have said television's fast moving images and fast spoken words hurrying thought processes, many programs have background laughing at almost every finished sentence, are used to dumb down viewers intelligence by stimulating emotional child-like fun pleasures. In several programs which I theorise establishment want people to watch to remember story themes, hopefully using hurried thought, are courtroom dramas and dumb inefficient policing systems.

Real news, I call created drama for cameras fake news, have federal governments concerned about: gay marriage; passing laws for doctors to aid in a legal choice to commit suicide under given reasons; legal abortion; immigration; legal 5 verse illegal 7 shot shot guns; climate change; a list of rolled over concerns... the family court system doesn't work, too expensive for individuals to use, done wrong by victims resorting to class actions, which continue for many years. Never have heard how real class actions conclude as a news story.

Regarding bank financial advisors, I speculate because each individual person's claims are different to that of other claimants, class actions fail, bogged down in individual differences. Share holder complaints are one misinformation report effecting a number of readers.

I suggest politics dysfunctional behaviours have much to do with that when fake stories are found to be lies, past glimmers of belief, holds in memories. That seeing post 2008 GFC The Good Wife series increased courtroom dramas, people whom feel cheated out of their wealth, resort to joining class action justice, merely to be frustrated by years of waiting and possibly parting with more wealth.

As insurance companies are often responsible for paying out claims, keeping court cases in court punishes claimants. The legal firm Slater and Gordon faces class action, not being able to earn estimated income through finalised cases.
http://www.afr.com/news/slater--gordon-faces-250m-class-action-20161011-gs090c

As Donald Trump chooses a high court judge, focused media attention is on future judges know judgement beliefs on rejecting legal abortion.

Media rarely mention progress on class actions against banks, whether class actions are a good idea and/or provide any alternative advice
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 12:46:05 PM
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Media fails to use their listeners and readers accumulated trust in the media to put media trust to advice pitfalls in investment advice. Media accumulated feelings of trust gives the feel good factor of trust toward other factors: banks; Internet scams.

My informed by a single small accountant firm's financial advisor, after the financial advisor lost money on AMP IPO demutualised in 1998, telling me ASX sends him glossy brochures recommending investments to his clients. The reason he said he lost money on AMP float was ASX brochure on AMP float stated to recommend to his clients to buy AMP at any price. AMP opened at $20 a share, as forecast, immediately jumping to $34 a share, falling back to $20 a share. That days news had John Howard stating an inquiry would take place to why many investors purchased shares at $34 a share, immediately falling back to $20 a share. My opinion is the market duped investors, that no following inquiry happened because the political system is part of the establishment which rips off people's wealth.

Recently spoke to a person who trades shares. He gave me a quick verbal explanation on what several share company data lines were doing, theorising some unethical manipulating was going on. I say a touch of unethical trading beliefs allows market trading to seem legitimate.

I see 1970s “bottom of the harbour” scheme rip off as little different than investment advisors being advised by share markets and investment package promoters to buy investment company products since after the bottom of the harbour scheme was revealed. The finance media have become more diverse and more psychologically persuasive, convincing investors markets aren't merely there to delay investors spending their money until money can be tricked out of investors using guided into large loss scams.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 12:52:21 PM
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February 5, Joel Osteen's Ten network morning sermon was how this year was going to be a good year of business, that everyone should expect to do well during no mentioned date year, probably because the recorded sermon could be rebroadcast year after year.

I mentioned previously how I theorised Walt Disney was working for Bank of America, that a documentary on Walt Disney suggested he mostly loss money. That Bank of America was happy to dumb down US American citizens with simple distracting entertainment, allowing citizens to borrow under bank recommendations rather than individual borrowers better informed intelligence. If humans are distracted from independent thought long enough, such thought deprived humans will find doubting what they're told, (doubtful thought), difficult to perform.

My theory extends to Joel Osteen must be working for an American bank and/or some organised figure, who are in most instances the establishment. The idea that the establishment is limited to the US Republican Party is merely a misdirecting lie, reducing the idea of an establishment to a single political party. Gore Vidal stated that everyone (in the establishment) knew what to do.

Several other television evangelists are promoting the end of time Apocalypse theories as though people concerned about their safety should prepare for something bad. When you see these television Doomsday preppers preparing for something bad, they're spending considerable time not earning money, depleting their own wealth. New prediction dates encourage new participants who sell property and/or buy new property in the country to go live in the bush. I'm sure this is some long running joke, establishment members and in the know mates enjoy themselves on how humans wish to protect themselves through human emotionally driven instinct for fight or flight.

Everything comes down to human behaviour's abilities experienced while during childhood years. An education system flashed with cash, devoted to keeping students deprived of relevant to life knowledge.

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Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 1:02:19 PM
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All this insults between politicians (getting personal) is unproductive. Front bench politicians are chosen on their ability to verbally insult competing politicians. Poorly educated emotional people, finding pleasure in competitive aggressive images, wanting to believe some competitive spirit, entertainment. Children watching fights in a playground, encouraging their favoured child/teenager. Children stressed and bored enjoying change from the boredom, talking about the fight in it's simple shallow context.

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Australia Post Boss $5.7 million earnings multiple amounts of money compared to average Australia Post employees, indicates how human intellectual potential to learn new correctly thought out skills, adapting ideas, is being repressed by limited to spelling words advanced maths academic learning, lasting for (most successful students) 13 years.

I could invent a theory that constant spelling words and calculating maths, occupying human brains with constant awareness, creating many neuron connections, constantly revisiting same neuron connections, each neuron memory connection creates a minor/barely felt painful experience. Add to that theory a more realistic idea that processing information while constantly feeling mental stress, mental stress is attached to learnt memories. As employed adults, on performing childhood school tasks, mild mental stress memories return to be felt, causing more mental stress while performing paper work tasks, than would have been if while as students at school, academic tasks were limited to no more than two hours a school day.

Alcohol and Drug addicted societies could theoretically be caused by forced on society long hours of school education.
The least educated, school drop-outs, were merely traumatised in early schooling, too young, too not ready to attend school, least likely to understand how to remember spelling words.

There was a recent media mentioned story lasting one day, on how children who first attend school aged in the low age limits. ADHD was being diagnosed and treated, where all that was wrong was too young to attend school children were merely being aged 2-5 child-like old hyperactive. A quick statement from a mother said she allowed her child to do a second year in kindergarten, was the best thing she did.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 9 February 2017 1:18:05 PM
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Because memorising mere individual spelling words short information, without comprehending other words meanings as a formulated sentence, having hurrying time limits placed on finishing tasks. Results lead to low paid Australia Post mail delivery services employment, example.

Electronic media; published reading material and education limits potential complex thought to simpler known people personality stories, individuals relationship to another person, personal statements as it happens information: gays; sexual molesters; criminals; murderers; drug users; politicians; presidents; actors; bible prophets; Jesus.

School student mentally exhausting day, having student wanting to ignore anything that resembles academic thought, spend remaining time after school learning instant knee-jerk responses on keeping themselves intellectually dumb.

The Australia Post boss one day earnings scandal is ether a false story or his relationship with the establishment management class, gives him far more money than he's worth.

I speculate rolled over media stories on highly paid management, encourages parents to push their children to obtain good school grades, parents feeling purpose by encouraging their children. The beginning of school year time factor may add credibility to the parent theory.

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Politicians and media mentioning climate change, politicians and media could do something productive rather than media merely reminding citizenry of hot climate awareness. Insulation bats in ceilings and walls insulated heat from passing through ceilings and walls. Windows not only allow light to enter rooms, heat and sun radiation passing through windows heating closed curtains, heats up rooms which air-conditioners often can't manage to cool rooms.

Europe have building standards on insulating buildings, where Australia has, I am sure, no building codes on temperature control insulation.
I speculate, builders won't quote insulation in building quoting, as increased quoted costs bottom line total will look higher than competing builder quotes who will no doubt tell potential customers they don't need insulation and/or insulation won't making any difference, allowing bottom line quotes to look cheaper than competitors.

The properties of building insulation aren't media and/or school discussions.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 9 February 2017 1:24:36 PM
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Double glaze class windows filled with insulation gasses. Fans removing built up hot air inside roof cavities. Heat monitoring transistor technology could be turning on and off fans removing/replacing air inside buildings hotter air ceilings and rooms than air outside buildings.

South Australia example, having a warm night: large flat television 400 watt screens; electric stoves cooking evening meals; carbon filament light globes burning unnecessary electricity: air-conditions running constantly running compressors to cool large open living space rooms that don't have doors leading to hallways and kitchens; road lighting's unfocused light burning electricity before the sun goes down. Industrial and office building: lighting; air-conditioning; elevators, are active. There's no wind turning wind generators and no sun light shining on solar panels.

On hot days, people abandon homes to travel to cooler places, burning motor fuels, having to put up with not being at home.

During cold winters, burning increased fuels to keep warm.

Fill homes with insulation materials, make homes with good insulation qualities a media mentioned cultural belief as in the Northern hemisphere, homes will increase sales value while having enjoyed the comfort of a good insulated home.

Refrigeration Star ratings should be regulated to improve electricity efficiency as sellers of refrigerators are profit incentive providers, only selling low star rated cheaper refrigerators.

Because “innovation” is merely a word, human society are more concerned about: sports; government controlled education courses which repress innovative thought learning courses.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 9 February 2017 1:31:01 PM
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Racist propaganda: Jerusalem is place where the three main religions argue over the right to live in the city. I speculate, each religion's religious leaders use the division of religions to increase their own leadership status without having to provide increased limited resources. When food resources become limited, religions blame each other, distracting blame away from leaders limited control on supplying sufficient food.

For political reasons, I theorise establishment leader classes invite other religions with their different cultures into a country, finding citizenry conflict between cultural differences redirects citizenry concerns on solving problems establishment doesn't want to solve.

Malcolm Turnbull's attack on Bill Shorten could be a redirection from other news establishment wants unreported by uncontrolled media, Internet readers. Yet Malcolm Turnbull is merely creating my version of main-stream fake news.

The culture of people insulting/criticising other people is being promoted by front bench politicians and reality television and shock joke radio. That children see adults react positively to such media, should be a concern media topic.
People practicing insulting/criticising people who feel enjoyment in doing so, I speculate, are often referred to as narcissists.

Owners of laptops: Did you notice as I noticed on my HP laptop, charging laptop batteries on hot days may, (not running a study) takes longer to turn the orange light to a charged blue light. I believe having opened several laptop battery packs, batteries are monitored for temperature, so on hot days the battery won't charge as on cooler days, due to regulating how a battery pack is charged temperatures.

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Posted by steve101, Thursday, 9 February 2017 1:41:38 PM
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