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Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 5:33:24 AM
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I will be off to Merrylands this Saturday to celebrate with several thousand Kiwi's and others, New Zealand's nation day, at the annual Sydney Waitangi Day festival. The day is significant in New Zealand's history as it was on 6th February 1840 that the Maori Chiefs of Aotearoa, and the representative of the British Crown, Lieutenant Governor William Hobson, came together at Waitangi to sign a treaty of equality between two differing peoples, forming the nation of New Zealand. Something unfortunately Australia lacks to this day, unless of course you believe it all happened 26th January 1788.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 6:43:21 AM
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Not in 1788 . Convicts were flogged but not Aboriginals. It took about 60 years to give British citizens equality with Aboriginals before the flogger. Finally flogging was abolished in NSW in 1974 and all Australians heaved a sigh of relief and equality.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 7:22:21 AM
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"Something unfortunately Australia lacks to this day, unless of course you believe it all happened 26th January 1788"
A reasonable adult should be able to attend a celebration without stirring. However stirring is in the DNA of Greens, particularly the activist 'Eastern Bloc'. Celebrate by all means, but Merrylands has had its ethnic problems and can do without cynical Greens' stirring that is only aimed at their political advantage, not the community's benefit. Have a chat first with community liaison officers,http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/community_issues/cultural_diversity Then again, the NSW Greens are trenchant critics of the police force. Again, to score political points in some quarters out of fostering controversy and division. Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 8:49:08 AM
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nicknamenick,
"Anzac when the water was red with Australians' blood..." ITYF it was red with Poms' blood. The ANZACs had successfully made it ashore while it was still dark. And (Bazz) the troops were put ashore where it was thought they had the best chance of success. The myth that it wasn't the planned location has been thoroughly debunked. Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 9:16:55 AM
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Hi Paul,
Come on, be honest: at Waitangi, the chiefs who signed were willingly putting their groups under a British 'Protectorate' and ceding sovereignty to the British Crown - not land ownership, just sovereignty. We both have Ngapuhi relations, you and I, but they seem to have been one of their greatest threats to those other Maori groups, isn't that so ? Are you proposing that Aboriginal people should beaver away on a 'treaty' only in order to cede sovereignty ? Not that it would make any sense in 2017 or 2027 or 2037, or whenever it's finally drawn up, but it would keep many people busy for a very long time, negotiating terms for a fait accompli. No., I think we should be focussing on 'reconciliation' rather than 'recognition', on coming together on just terms rather than any idiotic separation, which a treaty, a separate State, etc., would amount to. The vast majority of Indigenous people here live in towns and cities - perhaps 80 %, so what would a treaty or a separate State mean for them ? What an utter waste of time, resources, goodwill and sense. One factor which desperately needs attention and reform is the employment of Indigenous people - IF they are funnelled into Indigenous units, even when they have mainstream qualifications and seek mainstream employment. This is as racist as buggery, and forces Indigenous people to pimp their Indigeneity in order to get at least some job. If a graduate happens to be Indigenous, and applies for mainstream position, but is offered only an Indigenous-oriented position, then that is racist, no two ways about it. Of course, the elites support that racist position, since it builds up their own power-base, and keeps potential numbers out of the mainstream. There are many issues to be resolved besides pissy issues such as 'nations' (do it, organise it, if you want to) and a bogus 'treaty', let alone some dumb-dumb off-into-the-desert separate State. And that isn't a racist thought-bubble ? Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 31 January 2017 9:33:08 AM
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Hers's a briefer history than Eureka blogs:
"1835. Australia’s first political party, the Australian Patriotic Association, was established under W. C. Wentworth. The party demanded democratic government for New South Wales.
1840
Australia’s first election was held on 31 October with the establishment of Adelaide City Council. Nearly 600 people cast votes.
1843
Australia’s first parliamentary election was held for the New South Wales Legislative Council.
Men with £200 free–hold or £20 annual value householders were allowed to vote.
1850
Elections for legislative councils were held in Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania.
4 years later .. Eureka!