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antarctic cracking up

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Glacier melt and snowfall are different although California is alarmingly full of crack. Alarms can be observed and heard scientifically.
2015, 2016 , 201....
Accelerated glacier melting in West Antarctica documented: Study ...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161025113327.htm
Accelerated glacier melting in West Antarctica documented ... Date: October 25, 2016; Source: University of California, Irvine; Summary: Two new studies have ...
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 2:04:29 PM
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Antarctica is a very complex place, and observable 'facts' can be very misleading.

Many people mistake volume of sea ice, for instance, with size. When the winds blow off the continent the size of sea ice increases, but not the volume. When winds blow onto the continent the size of sea ice decreases. Measurements have concluded that the volume of sea ice is decreasing, and has been for a while.

Ice on the continent is kilometres deep, and melt is hard to measure because the land mass is pushed down by the weight of it. As the weight decreases the land will rise. Melt from the continent can also become sea ice, making it even more difficult to measure.
Posted by Billyd, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 8:17:26 PM
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The Antarctic might be warming, bits might be break off, bits melting away. We'll know more in a decade or two by which time new 'predictions' (always dire) will be around.

But if whatever's happening is caused by warming then we can take comfort in knowing that it all happened before and somehow we and the planet survived. The world has been warmer than now 25% of the time over the past 12000 years. It was warmer 1000 yBP, 2000 yBP, 3000 yBP and many times before that. Presumably the Antarctic melted and had bits break off in those times as well, if warming is the issue.

Since we and the Antarctic and the Arctic survived those earlier warmings, we should just chill -so to speak.

The world might be warming and it might be caused in part by man We'll know more in a decade or three. But that's not good enough for those who want to up-end society now, so a never ending trail and tale of impending disaster is predicted. That those predictions fail to come to fruition, is of little concern to those of a certain persuasion. Its not about being right, its about getting support for desired changes.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 7:30:26 AM
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London had about 12,000 people at 1000BP and maybe 60,000 in Roman times. Brisbane a bit less and people could shift camp at a moment's notice.
"Future sea level rises could put more than $200 billion of Australian infrastructure at risk, a report by the Climate Council has found.

The report's lead author, Professor Will Steffen, warned national income would suffer huge losses .. "You're looking at anywhere from three tenths of a per cent of loss of GDP per year, all the way up to 9 per cent loss of GDP per year," Professor Steffen said.

Coastal flooding report:

At least $226 billion of infrastructure exposed to flooding and erosion (with a 1.1m sea level rise), including:

$81b – commercial buildings
$72b – residential
$67b – road and rail
$6b – light industrial buildings

Source: Climate Council

With more than 75 per cent of Australians living near the coast, Professor Steffen said large swathes of infrastructure were at risk.

"The people who are investing actually went to the best scientists here in Australia, experts of sea level rises, and decided they were going to build that Brisbane airport runway higher than previously planned," he said.

If sea level rises were ignored, by 2050 the report predicted the global impact of coastal flooding would cost $US1 trillion per year - the same size as the Australian economy."
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 8:18:46 AM
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Thanks for that Nick, I feel a lot safer now.

After all, the climate council is run by that, "It aint gunna rain no more" bloke, & we all know how useful that twits forecasts are don't we?

With the way the sun is going, yep that source of all our heat, we could, [yes we rational folk can use that word too], be about to go into a new Maunder minimum, so are more likely to find our harbours drying out, rather than our suburbs going under water.

Some time shortly a new ice age will develop, [yes will, not could], & the Great Barrier Reef will revert to a range of low coastal hills, as it was 10000 years back. This time it will be topped with a bit of coral for a little while.

I have to ask, do you actually believe this stuff, or is there some advantage to you personally, in having a bunch of dills believe it?

Of course you could be just a mean people hating Green, which would explain things
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 10:51:38 AM
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wowie , now I'm pushing world twit geophysics research , London river barrier and Brisbane airport runway , at 1.5% gross commission.
Would / could you love to see people having their coastal houses eroded in value and become Green beach gravel ?
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 11:10:42 AM
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