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antarctic cracking up

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On the Larsen ice shelf a crack is speeding up. A survey 9 years ago said the ice was thinning and softening but a fracture was unlikely.
From the info it seems it began 40 years ago at 2.5km year then did 10km year from 2010 to 2014. Then up to 2016 it got to 12km year and now is doing 50km year. That makes a graph like a rectangular hyperbola which goes along flat then abruptly turns upwards. Earthquakes are similar where tension slowly rises then suddenly snaps. The crack would be moving about 2mm a second so is visible and probably making a noise like a tin roof on a hot day. Greenland's glaciers can be heard splitting and booming.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 15 January 2017 5:07:51 PM
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Ask the idiots from the ship of fools if the Antarctic is cracking up.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 16 January 2017 9:21:00 AM
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Reference was made to a ship of fools. In Climate Change discussions, such ships are populated with CC denialists. It is unfortunate that such people dive into climate change discussions offering myths, delusions and beliefs. It is a pity that they do not address facts. Perhaps they do not understand the attributes of facts. They are often triumpherate with their arguments. Thankfully the fog of uncertainty each lives in is diminishing, with their boats growing much smaller, and numbers reducing. It is probable that each denier occupies his or her own boat. It is almost impossible to find compatible denialists who can live in the same fog of uncertainty, as each has cultivated their own individual set of beliefs and myths.

PS: the rate of Antarctic ice melt is icreasing exponentially with time, driven by deep sea currents heated by climate change.
Posted by Tony153, Monday, 16 January 2017 3:12:12 PM
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Actually Tony, if you had any grasp of the science you would know that the Antarctic ice mass is growing https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses.

Also, given that the Antarctic is a land mass, warm seas are not melting the ice sheets. Most of the ice is inland, and for all of the year below zero celsius.

The problem with this area is that there are too many people who have not the foggiest idea what they are talking about, prepared to weigh into the debate, calling other people names, and muddying the waters. They are the ones who are anti-science.
Posted by GrahamY, Monday, 16 January 2017 8:51:23 PM
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Dear Sir
"if you had any grasp of the science"...that's not very OLO style.

Larsen holds back glaciers which do move a rivers of ice.

"Australian Antarctic Division Glaciologist, Dr Ben Galton-Fenzi, said researchers want to better understand how much this glacial melt is driving sea-level rise.
“Since the 1900s the global sea-level has risen by around 20 centimetres and by the end of the century it’s projected to rise by up to one metre or more,,"

"Future sea level rises could put more than $200 billion of Australian infrastructure at risk, a report by the Climate Council has found."
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:23:52 AM
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.." Jay Zwally, a glaciologist with NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, and lead author of the study, which was published on Oct. 30 in the Journal of Glaciology.
But it might only take a few decades for Antarctica’s growth to reverse, according to Zwally. “If the losses of the Antarctic Peninsula and parts of West Antarctica continue to increase at the same rate they’ve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in East Antarctica in 20 or 30 years -- I don’t think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses.”
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 6:30:03 AM
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