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This couldn't happen in Australia

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Dear Is Mise,

Come on mate this has very little to do with preparing young Australians for war, though FPS games are doing a pretty good job of it without having weapons poliferating our suburbs.

This is about you and your rights. You believe thay should trump the rights of the rest of us who want to be free of the scourge of gun violence that has so sorely inflicted the US.

Look, we both like guns. I grew up with them and owned some beauties but gave them away when kids came on the scene. That was my choice but Port Arthur made it my country's choice. If you are really unable to wear it then I am serious, please consider leaving. It would be better for your mental health and dare I say it the safety of the rest of us since the fewer rabid gunrights people we have in this country trying to dilute our laws the better.

Just imagine the thrill you would get from living in an open carry state in the US. You could strut around with a pistol on your hip and a highpowered rifle slung over your shoulder and when questioned by police you could tell them to piss off because you were exercising your second amendment rights.

http://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/how-united-states-immigration-system-works
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 9:32:43 AM
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Steele,

All that I want is for Australians to be able to protect themselves.

Take the case of a woman alone on a large rural holding, miles from a neighbour and hours from police assistance.
She is not allowed, by law, to keep a couple of 12 gauge shells in her pocket and the gun handy if she needs it.
It must be locked away and the ammo locked up separately.

Compare this with John Howard and other MsP going jogging with their armed bodyguards.

Fair?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 10:01:33 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

Rubbish. I do not for a moment think you are more worried about a lone woman on a farm compared to your own rights but let's play.

In 2010-11 there were 9 accidental shootings of workers on farms in Australia.

Here are some of those stories;

“The deceased removed his rifle from his cupboard and loaded one bullet into the single shot rifle and then got onto his motor bike and somehow in the process of getting onto his bike or starting his bike the firearm has discharged with the projectile striking him under his chin resulting in a fatal injury.”

“The deceased and his son were spotlighting for vermin at his farm when his four-wheel-drive vehicle hit a bump and a shotgun held by son in the back of the ute fired. The deceased was assigned to shoot a rogue bull.”

“The deceased left the area on the quad bike with a 243 bolt action rifle sitting across his thighs. It is believed the deceased has hit a log, causing the quad bike to flip and land on his legs. During the incident it appears the firearm discharged with the projectile striking the deceased in the face causing death.”

So you want rules around firearms on farms relaxed so you can massage a fetish? How many extra Australian lives are we going to have to sacrifice to indulge you?

Safety rules like mandatory roll bars on tractors and hopefully soon on quads are the result of addressing fatalities in the sector. Firearm rules do the same. If you can't live with them then leave.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 10:59:15 AM
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Steele,

What has mis-handling and ignoring basic safety rules got to do with a lone woman being able to protect herself?

I'm all in favour of safety rules and stringently observe them myself and if the rules are followed there won't be any accidents.

I don't find the current laws onerous but people being denied the means of basic effective protection I do find objectionable.

This is my latest 'toy'
in stainless steel and with a 6 inch barrel (1 in longer than the illustration)
http://www.chuckhawks.com/ruger_single_six_guns.htm
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 11:56:31 AM
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Meanwhile, down in Victoria, there firearms registry has emulated he NSW one and stuffed up.

"The Victorian Government has apologised to almost 9,000 gun owners after a "deeply concerning" data breach resulted in thousands of gun owners' personal details mistakenly being emailed out."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-18/gun-owners-personal-details-released-in-email-error-in-breach/8191594

This is the sort of thing that makes a mockery of all the blurb about firearms safety, once the data is out then there is no control over where it goes.

Any one know of one crime solved by the use of the various firearm registries?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 9:01:57 PM
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