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New South Wales Rifle Association leasing prime property from Government under market value

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Th ABC is in anti shooter mode again,
I really think that as Malabar's ANZAC Range is an historic site that there should only be a 'peppercorn' rental.

The Labor party hacks are posturing again and don't speak for the locals at all.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-29/nsw-rifle-association-getting-cheap-rent-on-prime-coast-property/8151604
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 30 December 2016 5:46:01 PM
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//I really think that as Malabar's ANZAC Range is an historic site that there should only be a 'peppercorn' rental.//

Why? Historic sites cost a lot of money to maintain. Why shouldn't NSWRA pay a fair price for their use of the land? I've always been told 'there's no such thing as a free lunch'. Why should that not apply to sporting shooters?

Why should I, as a New South Welshman and a taxpayer, be providing middle-class welfare to people who don't need it by subsidising their choice of recreational activity? Are they going to subsidise my choice of recreational activity in return? Because I'd quite like a spray skirt for my kayak. Any New South Welsh rifle shooters want to cough up?

I won't hold my breath. Apparently rifle shooters are even tighter than Scotsmen and Jews. You learn something new every day.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 30 December 2016 10:08:35 PM
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Toni,

We might consider the fact that firearm owners are required by law to attend a range.
As the law is a Government idea then should not the Government provide the ranges?
A simple solution would be to change the law and not require attendance at a Government approved range as a qualification to retain a Firearms Licence.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 31 December 2016 12:41:45 PM
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Come off it Toni Lavis, time to wake up a bit.

How many god dam football stadiums, velodromes, athletics facilities & a million other "sporting" facilities have government built? What possible help in defending this nation against an aggressor would any of them, or canoeists be?

If the average young Ozzie had not been proficient with a gun in 1941 Kokoda would have been a Japanese walk over, & you might now be saying yes sir in Japanese.

The government want to think themselves lucky, [& probably do], that they can palm off the expense of maintaining the range to the privateers. In Jarvis Bay, where the navy train their young officers, they found it too expensive, & let the range deteriorate.

They now have to bus their trainees to Canberra a few times each course, just to let them hear something go "BANG". Frightens the daylights out of some of our potential defence force leaders it does. God help us, if they ever had to use the things seriously.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 31 December 2016 2:29:32 PM
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Hasbeen, the ADF that 'Once were Warriors' are now reduced to doing Take 5's before they go into combat. God help the poor footslogger who has omitted to write down "magazine change", or "perceived pressure" on their Job Hazard Assessment ! The corporate mentality has taken over from Cpl Common Sense who died sometime in the late 1980's, along with his old friend Esprit de Corps. This has infected the upper eschelons and seen the likes of Mr Morrison become 'Australian of The Year'. I can only surmise the abject horror felt by many under his command with the "touchy - feely ADF" he subjected his troops to.

When exercises & range shoots were conducted in the mid 1980's the Regular Army soldier was lucky to see 200 rounds of ammunition fired annually from their SLR...it isn't much better today with the allocation of rounds for the F88. The only saving grace is that some units are able to access the simulator ranges, an obvious saving on ammunition and associated costs to units.

Toni Lavis, we need more folk like yourself to push for the total abolition of firearms in the populace, it will serve us well sometime into the future when the PLA/Kopassus come storming over the horizon. More training for young folk on video games is badly needed, which no doubt feel "just like the real thing" when simulating firearms operation and recoil. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Playstation, X Box and their like will be the saviour we need on the day.

Principles of Marksmanship anyone ?
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Saturday, 31 December 2016 3:57:25 PM
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The article, as journalism, leaves a lot to be desired, but that's modern "journalism": would hardly get a pass mark as a first year, first semester essay.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 31 December 2016 5:50:49 PM
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