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Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 17 December 2016 1:26:50 PM
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Found it buried after a few menus on www.news.com.au then go to national then go to victoria then go to crime.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 17 December 2016 3:14:05 PM
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Dear Philip S.,
I watched this on the Chanel 10 news. Horrific stuff. The Age did carry the story: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/up-to-30-people-involved-in-st-kilda-beach-brawl-20161213-gtgwgO.html Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 December 2016 3:39:57 PM
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Is this thread about main stream media or African migrants?
So hard to tell, make up your mind please. If it's about MSM, the video on your there says it's a 'Channel 10 exclusive', and they seem pretty mainstream to me, so no censorship there. Posted by Bugsy, Saturday, 17 December 2016 3:41:15 PM
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cont'd ...
Sorry, I'm having computer problems - here's the website again: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/up-to-30-people-involved-in-st-kilda-beach-brawl-20161213-gt9wgO.html Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 December 2016 3:45:29 PM
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still trying...
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/up-to-30-people-involved-in-st-kilda-beach-brawl-20161213-gt9wg0.html Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 December 2016 3:53:56 PM
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Something funny is going on with that link Foxy.
I'm sure its correct but it doesn't seem to work, it's quite strange. Quote from the express.co.uk link "According to local reports, the African teenagers had been terrorising people enjoying the beach for hours, stealing phones, bikes and other possessions. Police were called to the south-east Melbourne beach on a number of occasions throughout the day but each time the gang would just disperse before joining up again to continue their campaign of intimidation." Too hard for the police? Too hot? Couldn't be bothered? Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 December 2016 4:08:36 PM
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Dear AC,
The link finally worked. Try my last post on page 1. I felt so sorry for the young bloke who got beaten and for his family and friends. I watched him being interviewed on the news. I can't understand the behaviour of these thugs or the police in this case. Hopefully, the police will look into what happened and why? Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 December 2016 5:33:07 PM
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Hey Foxy,
Yes I feel the same, poor blokes were just going about their jobs. This is why the right get so frustrated with the left; because we feel they're detached from reality. Political Correctness would dictate that if anyone spoke badly about these violent foreign-born youths, they'd be labelled racist. But it's fairly obvious they are crapping on our race and country. Again, racist. And if someone tried to point out that multiculturalism has a nasty side and isn't all just 'sitting around the campfire singing kumbaya's' then that would be racist too. Who wants these people in our country? Oh that's right we make foreigners Australians of the year instead. http://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/honour-roll/?view=fullView&recipientID=1171 It just wouldn't be politically correct to have an Australian of the Year be someone who was born here, unless they were part of a persecuted minority group. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 December 2016 5:37:37 AM
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Dear AC,
I've always thought that our human behaviour is largely shaped by the groups to which we belong and by the social interaction that takes place within those groups. We are what we are and we behave the way we do because we happen to live in particular societies at particular points in space and time. If we were born, say, a modern Chinese peasant, or an African native, or an ancient Greek, or a feudal aristocrat, our personality, our opinion in life, and our social experience would be utterly different. We have seen that people in different walks of life may interpret the same phenomenon in very different ways. People tend to see the world from a viewpoint of subjectivity - an interpretation based on the influence of personal values and experiences. Therefore in order to maintain cohesion in our society - how we interact in this country has to be governed by legislation. That is an institutional framework that preserves tolerance and protects order. We should all be obligated to obey the same laws so that we can have social cohesion. So far it has worked in the majority of cases. It is important that we ensure that all of our citizens subscribe to the rule of law. In the case of this recent horrific attack - I trust that the police who are investigating the matter will get to the bottom of it and the appropriate action will be taken. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 December 2016 7:27:40 AM
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You said - "We make foreigners Australians of the Year." The following website sums things up rather well (in my opinion of course): It's worth a read. http://www/abc.net.au/news/2016-05-18/badami-aussie-is-about-more-than-where-you-came-from/7420818 Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 December 2016 7:46:12 AM
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My apologies for the typo: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-18/badami-aussie-is-about-more-than-where-you-came-from/7420818 Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 December 2016 7:52:04 AM
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Hey Foxy,
I checked out the linked article. I'm not sure I can articulate my thoughts very well atm on this one. On face value this kind of article is the type of thing I'm talking about, that annoys me. Always written from an immigrants point of view promoting the idea 'they' are Australian. Suddenly 'Muslim' is Australian. The article talked about what it means to be Australian. (It would be a good forum topic) Now if I move to India would I be considered Indian? If I moved to Mexico would I be considered Mexican? If I moved to China would I be considered Chinese? But anyone can be Australian. It all gets confusing doesn't it. See how it works in some situations but not in others? Remember when foreigners thought of Aussies as being like Crocodile Dundee? The article states that no-one is more Australian than anyone else. Now my Great Grandfather was apparently promoted to CO on the battlefield at Gallipoli after his CO was shot. In responding to the statement no-one is more Australian than anyone else I ask what do these people care (immigrants) care about Anzac Day? It's just a paid day off to them. Are the sons and daughters of Anzacs more Australian than people who call themselves Australians, but were not even born here? Not Being Born Here. Stands to reason they were firstly born a different nationality. So some foreigner is here for a couple of years thinks he is just as Australian as me, when they weren't even born here and firstly grew up Iranian or Pakistani (for example). Did they grow up watching The Sullivans, A Country Practice, Sons and Daughters, Prisoner or Mother and Son? No, they were living in another country learning its ways and customs which they now want to impose in my country. Seems very much like the opposite of Australian to me. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 December 2016 9:18:27 AM
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Dear AC,
I've already articulated my thoughts on this issue on The Forum. Ages ago I started a Discussion - "What does being an Australian mean to you?" I wrote under the name of "Lexi." It's worth a read: http://www.forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5971 Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 December 2016 11:06:18 AM
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Hey Foxy,
You seem to be having a terrible time with those links. I can't understand why they don't work, I'm sure they are right. Lets try to figure it out... I'm posting this link as a test which I've already previewed as working, I searched and found the forum link myself and copied the address and pasted it here. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5971 Now I'll copy and paste your link: http://www.forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5971 Maybe OLO doesn't like linking to web addresses that include the www. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 December 2016 12:18:53 PM
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Dear AC.,
Thanks for sorting things out for me. I am so relieved that it finally works. Here's another discussion on the Forum that may interest you: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4258 Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 December 2016 5:06:34 PM
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One of the problems for the news media was the Victorian policy of not
giving information on the ethnicity of offenders. Indeed they appeared to give very little information at all. Something similar went on in NSW but I don't think it was an officially acknowledged policy. We can be pleased that the policy of saying such offenders had a mental problem does not seem to have been implemented here. It is/was very prevalent excuse to cover up racial/religious crimes in the UK and Europe. It does seem to have worn itself out lately. Think about it from the politicians point of view. They authorised this immigration surge and they do not want to be tarred with the blame for it going wrong. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 19 December 2016 3:49:15 PM
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I'm a bit late coming in here, but what has this got to do with censorship?
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 10:36:29 AM
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ttbn - The fact that very few MSM outlets covered the story or buried it way down after a lot of links.
Also that a lot of such stories and other world events lately have failed to be covered instead they report on absolutely stupid uninteresting articles or sponsored articles that just want you to buy something. Correct me if you think I am wrong. Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 2:07:48 PM
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Here is another one, I heard it on the BBC about 4am.
Someone went into a mosque in Zurich and machine gunned the congregation. Have not heard about that locally, have you ? Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 3:05:52 PM
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Philip,
You found the truth and you laid it before us. I find the truth. This means that we look in the right places. There is no censorship of information in Australia as there is with China or other totalitarian countries; it is just that some organisations don't report what is not in line with their politics. There is nothing we can do about it, there is not really anything wrong about. It's irritating. It's wrong (to me) but some people do not want to hear what you and I know to be the truth. For instance, people who look only to the ABC and Fairfax for the truth are really, truly frightened to find out that they might be wrong, which would affect their egos and their feeling of self. The first 30 years of my life, I was a victim of the Left. I married, met different people with different ideas, and eventually found the truth, and had to work through the embarrassing dogma that I had previously defended and lived by. I understand people who don't want to change. It is painful. They want certain things covered up because they suspect (rightly) that they and everything they have always been will be blown away, and that's not good for the ego or self-esteem. Most people never change their opinions on anything. I regard myself as one of the lucky ones who has managed it. And the biggest benefit for me has been an unbiased cynicism of politics (all politicians are absolute pricks), and 'censorship', bias, different opinions don't worry me one bit. All of us have one vote after 3 years (federal) and 4 years (state) and that's it, no matter what we say or think in between. It won't be those of us on OLO, Facebook or Twitter, nor know-all journalists and commentators who decide the next election, it will be 5% of the great 'Silent Majority' who never express an opinion. What we do here is just a sport. Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 3:11:43 PM
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Here it is;
Three people were injured when a man stormed into a Zurich mosque and opened fire on people at prayer, police said. http://tinyurl.com/hxrql48 Does not sound like a machine gun attack. Is it a case of the turned worm ? Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 3:16:56 PM
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Hi Bazz,
I got it from the ABC. That's local isn't it? Are you saying that we should be hearing more about it? I read the headline and and little else because I think it's ho hum these days, given that it now happens all the time in countries which have been sillier than ours in letting inappropriate people into their folds. Import the people, you import the culture. I don't wish to seem unfeeling, and mistakes have been made, but, hell's bells, how many mistakes does it take to make these European idiots to wake up. They seem to have a death wish. Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 3:27:09 PM
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Yes of course ABC is local.
I missed the mid day news but did not hear it this morning. Even BBC world news does not have it on their news web site. Also commercial radio did not cover it. You are right of course, it is becoming quite hum drum these days. There is a bulletin put out once a month with a report for each day of Islamic attacks or criminal activities in Europe. They seldom miss a day in the month without such an attack or aggressive statement. One lady I know has heard of hardly any Islamic attacks in Europe. She had heard of the Hebdo Charley one. She is a retired school teacher so that might account for it. It is quite true that very little of what happens reaches our ears. Five or ten people being killed or wounded is just not news any more. Ho Hum Boring ! Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 3:49:57 PM
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How can anyone trust Australian media anymore.
They were like WILD ANIMALS' Migrant mob beat workmates SENSELESS in horror beach attack
A RAMPAGING mob of African migrants beat two men senseless during a horrifying attack on a beach.
One of the victims of the savage assault, identified only as Andrew, described his attackers “animals”.
The terrifying ordeal unfolded when the gang of African teenagers began destroying fencing outside the St Kilda Life Saving Club on the famous Melbourne beach, Australia.
Two landscape gardeners working on the site yelled at the men who responded by unleashing a brutal onslaught.
Andrew said: “There were about 30 of them and they all turned at once and attacked me, all of them swinging at once.
“I just told them to get out of the construction site and then they just looked at me and they just charged at me like animals, like in the wild, they were wild animals.”
The 21-year-old said the gang said nothing before the attack, in which he received a sudden punch to the head before being kicked, stamped on and whipped with a belt.
He sustained multiple facial injuries and his colleague, named only as Nathan, had his nose broken by the youths.
Andrew said: “Nathan was up against the wall getting beat up. He tried to grab somebody attacking me from behind and then a group of the people attacking me turned on him."
Both men were taken to hospital by paramedics.
According to local reports, the African teenagers had been terrorising people enjoying the beach for hours, stealing phones, bikes and other possessions.
REST OF STORY. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/744450/Australia-Melbourne-beach-attack-two-men-beaten-African-migrant-gang
Extracts from story.
"In recent years, gangs of mostly Sudanese men have terrorised Melbourne suburbs with a spate of burglaries, rape, assault, and carjackings."
"Police have said the gangs seem to be motivated by pleasure, warning: “Drugs or money aren’t the driver. It’s purely for the fun. They’re getting off on humiliating their victims.”"