Hi there CHRISGAFF1000...

Mr Justice Lionel MURPHY, should be amended to Mr Injustice MURPHY? Wasn't he the Attorney General who ordered the C'Wealth Coppers to raid the Canberra ASIO Offices back in the late 1970's? What a piece of work eh? S.72 the most used and abused section in the entire Crimes Act1900 I reckon. Didn't the original Larceny provisions at Common Law, still provide an avenue for legitimate prosecutions? Larceny as a servant; Larceny by mistake; etc etc.

Interestingly, men will come and go, governments may rise and fall, but corruption will live and prevail as long as men harbour avarice in their hearts, and not personal integrity. Stay well Chris.

G'day there PAUL1405...

J. Edgar HOOVER, what a complex individual he was eh? From humble beginnings in some obscure government agency, charged with some minor inspectorate duties for the agency, on to being the Director of the FBI. Many of the things you've mentioned about him are so true. I was fortunate enough to attend two FBI Schools back in the mid 1980's.

Speaking with some of our tutors and instructors at that time, HOOVER was either still revered or roundly condemned for the nepotism, partiality and bias in the way he ran the FBI. But their loyalty, to both him as it's Director, and the Bureau in toto, was positively unwavering to a man.

I was amazed at their recruiting and entry standards, so high and so demanding. They were often being contemptuously described, by other policing bodies, as America's Super-Cops. Resulting in much antipathy, hostility and enmity, between the Bureau and other law-enforcement agencies. Jealousy can be very damaging to moral, I would've thought?

Many thanks Paul for your thoughts.

Hi o sung wu,

Hoover was indeed a complex personality. Take for example, he was vehemently anti communists, took it to the extreme at times. Yet it was Hoover who in the 1930's declared Nazism was a greater threat to America than Communism, and that was at a time when Nazism was fashionable among many of America's elite.
It was hoover who formed the G-Men, answerable only to Hoover, whipped the force into shape fat men were made to lose weight, he had then weighed every month. made his men wear collars and ties. he was the first to understand the value of the media in formulating 'image' he used it most effectively for his own benefit.

I had a very good friend of mine, now deceased, he was a Crown Sergeant, not at Woollahra, ran with a football in his younger days, 40 years in the NSW coppers, LO and I went fishing together on Botany Bay often and talked.
Hw related this to me: At his retirement function a very senior copper in the force can up to him and said Well "Bill" you and I got our houses out of the force. "Bill" replied: "You got your house out of the force, I worked for mine," He could say that then.

Maybe you knew my mate the punter

Here is a place you might like to start investigating.

Start with what seems and appears to many, to be an admission by Senator Shane Parry, Senator for Tasmania and who is also the President of the Australian Senate.

In a mortuary industry publication he appears to praise the foresight of a mortuary company who, I gather, developed a new product for use at Pt Arthur in 1996.

If you conclude that this is indeed an admission then it suggests the event was planned and the govt is guilty of some things?

Secondly, take an interest in the royal commission into pedoism in Australia, There is good coverage of it at Gumshoe News.

Also on that website is some detailed review of the Lindt caffa incident a year or so ago.

That will get you started.

cheers

Hi there REFERUNDEMDRIVENSOCIETY...

Wow, that epithet of yours is a mouthful for sure my friend? However back to your contribution - no doubt there's corrupt practices to be found everywhere. And at every strata of both, government(s) and private enterprise.

In order to satisfactorily and efficaciously tease out all major corruption, one would need a force of tens of thousands, with unlimited resources, even to correctly identify, those engaged in such criminality. And having identified these miscreants, one must first seek out the necessary evidence to put the alleged offenders before a court. And then, have that evidence appropriately tested, pursuant to the rules of evidence, before a conviction can be lodged.

And that dedicated force, appointed to weed out corruption - who precisely would scrutinize them? There's that old legal maxim '...who watches the watchers...'? And so it goes on? Thank you very much for your contribution, I greatly appreciate it.

what has made corruption much easier is hand picked leftie judges who are usually more political than impartial. Look at our Human Rights Commission and you will see how easily they lie.

Hi there RUNNER...

You're so right my friend - there's a saying in my former industry, which reflects accurately of such jurists; 'jelly Judges'. How true it is, with inordinately light sentencing, permitting bail over and over again, this is long after the offender has repeatedly estreated his bail and has to be re-arrested. It beats me?