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Interminable Corruption in Australia - Does it Exist?

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Does Corruption exist in the Police Force?

Yes it does. Going back to my first encounter with Corrupt Authority. 1963. I arrived in Brisbane to join the Army. I stayed with my Cousin at 1 BOD at Gaythorne instead of NCPD at Gaythorne. I was 17. They got me pissed the night before & I didn't pass the Medical next day. Recruiting told me to come back in a year.

I stayed in Brisbane at an old Aunts at New Farm. I Met & became friends with the Bee Gee there. They played at the Methodist hall there. I used to go to the Sound Lounge above the Bowlette in Queen St. Where I met a chap who offered me a job at Channel 7. I was to be one of the Dancers behind the Singers & lighting & Sound etc. I did some training above the Roxy Theater in the Valley. The Valley was notorious for Corrupt Police & Prostitution. I had Dance lessons from Sir Robert Helpman once or twice & Deportment Lessons from June Daly Watkins.

Now in comes the Corruption bits. I found one of my duties was to help out a "Saturday Date" & "Amateur Hour" Escort at Fashion Shows. Change the Sheets & collect the Keys at the "National Hotel."

The High Class Girls all worked for the Detectives & went to Deportment Classes with June Daly Watkins. That's sort of how I got involved. I Changed the Sheets & collect the Keys at the "National Hotel." & returned them to the Bouncer.
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Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 1 December 2016 8:56:36 PM
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I met a couple of other chaps. Warren from Warrens Bar (famous) John Bell (Whisky-a-GoGo fame) (Bouncer) & Johnny Morris & the Playboys. Resident Band. I was well looked after, if you know what I mean. All of those Detectives were mentioned & the few Politicians that were involved were mentioned in the Fitzgerald Inquiry. It strange that he didn't go back that far or as far as the Whisky-a-GoGo.

My Brother punched Peter Allen in the nose & broke it. Yes the film was a lie. He put the hard word on my brother. He'd only arrived in Brisbane a few days before. The Police picked him & me up & questioned us. they asked me if I was on Drugs & I showed them my packet of Vincent's. I spilled my guts about the National Hotel & a few other things. That was at 7 pm at 9.30 pm we were on the train north back to Ayr never ever to return to Brisbane.

In 64 I joined the Army & when I got back to Brisbane I met up with John Bell again & the first Night Club (De Brazil) was opened in Brisbane. Myself, John Bell & John Morris were involved. Me, just a little bit. Those Detectives were always coming & going & so were the Girls & other stuff.

I went away to Vietnam, came home got married & went to Malaysia. Still kept in contact with the De Brazil & Big John Bell during this time. I got out of the Army in 69.
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Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 1 December 2016 8:57:45 PM
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A lady my wife worked with offered to baby sit for us as we had not been out since our daughter had been born. On the day of the Whisky-a-GoGo Fire I rang John Bell & said we were coming to the Whisky-a- GoGo. He said not to go there but go to his rivals as he would be down at the Broad Beach Hotel. We dropped my 3 months old daughter off at the Babysitters who were drinking & playing cards. John Finch was there when we got there & when we left for the Night Club. We got to the Rivals Night Club & about 20 minutes later we decided to leave as we did people rushed in saying the Whisky-a-GoGo was on fire. We went back to the Baby sitters. John Finch was still there.

When they arrested him a few days later I rang the Detectives involved in the Case & said that Finch could not have been involved as he was helping babysit my daughter. I was told in no uncertain terms that if I knew what was good for me I would keep my mouth shut & stay out of it.

Years later the Beaumont's went missing & they were my baby sitters that night. Were the detectives involved with that? I think so.

In 74 I went back to Ayr. n the first Saturday night my wife & I went to the Beach Dance. The Band was playing but no one was up stairs I asked why & was told that they were waiting for the stuff. Then a Police Car drove by & parked under a tree. The Boot opened & the light came on & the crowd made a dash for the car. They came with lots of Weed & got stuck into it. The local Farmers grow it in the Cane three rows in & it's given to the Police who distribute around NQ. The Ayr Police look after the Whitsundays to Ingham. My neighbour was a Courier for them.
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Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 1 December 2016 9:01:15 PM
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They were dividing the weed up at my neighbours place one day & he got a call. The Detective came over with a large suitcase & said to look after it. He had to make a raid on my neighbour & off he went. They came back later with the Squad & raided my neighbour. I had taken the Suitcase & hid it in the Cane. I didn't want it around my house in case they decided to raid me. After the raid the Detective came back & wanted his Suit Case & I told him where he could find it. He did & they continued to divide it up. He told me that the safest way to transport Drugs around Australia was with a large Security Service from a Metropolitan area as it's owned by some Politicians & some very high up Law People. They aren't allowed to be raided or searched.

Some years later I was in Weipa with the ARES & that Detective was there. At night I was guarding the Radar Tower & at 10 pm they turned it off. not long after that plane after plane came in landed turned around & took off again. I asked what was going on. & he said Drug Couriers. I said if he had reported it to the Police & he said that it was the Detective that was running the show. He turned the Radar on for a few minuted & the sky was full of aircraft going both ways. He turned it off. I went outside & a large Van drove past with that well known Security Service from a Metropolitan area LOGO on it. Strange that. He is now one of the higher up in the Police Force.

So are the some of the Police Corrupt. You betcha & it will never change. End
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 1 December 2016 9:03:33 PM
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Australia probably has less corruption than many countries, but there certainly is corruption in the political sphere, starting with the pre-selection of candidates, backed by power brokers who want to be paid back for their support. This is why we are getting no hopers in parliament; they are not working for us, they are working for shady people in the background, people the public doesn't even know. Government for the people by the people is a joke. I think, too, that o sung wu had his tongue firmly wedged in his cheek when he mentioned the judiciary. The High Court has given the key to the Constitution time and time again. We have the sense to knock back many more referendums than we pass, but quite often High Court judges invent interpretations that give politicians what they want, anyway. The judges are corrupted by and for power, not money, as they gouge nearly half a million a year out of us legally. Australia is in the mess it is in now because of corruption, even if it is only moral corruption.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 1 December 2016 10:13:53 PM
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Hi o sung wu,

Watched an interesting program on 'The History Channel' about J Edgar Hoover, arguably with 48 years as the head of the FBI the Worlds most powerful copper ever.
Was Hoover corrupt, in a sense yes, he was corrupted by power, applying his own standards, beliefs and moral values to the law. Often protecting those he agreed with, while exposing others he didn't support. He used 'blackmail' as a weapon against politicians, even Presidents, against other leading figures in American society. His approach was to let them know what he knew, then declaring, your secret is safe with me. Naturally it was only safe as long as Hoover wanted it to be.
Some would say Hoover type corruption was a small price to pay for all the good he did cleaning up crime. But was it? Could he simply have used his powers to clean up crime and left the politics etc to others.

Joe Kennedy once asked Hoover to run for President, he declined believing it would be a step down. He was probably right.

Nixon said of Hoover, he would have to resign, we can never sack him.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 2 December 2016 10:31:16 AM
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