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The Forum > General Discussion > It's time to cease the Nauru solution

It's time to cease the Nauru solution

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ttbn: Labor has not said they are against it yet,

They will find a way. That's what the opposition does. They oppose for the sake of opposing. Nothing to do with weather it's the right, wrong or the best thing to do.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 31 October 2016 1:11:17 PM
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Intelligent people learn by mistakes made by people in the past, too bad our politicians do not learn.

Hear is a very bad statistic from Germany.
During the first six months of 2016, migrants committed 142,500 crimes, according to the Federal Criminal Police Office. This is equivalent to 780 crimes committed by migrants every day, an increase of nearly 40% over 2015. The data includes only those crimes in which a suspect has been caught.

Notice the last sentence imagine what the figure would be like if it included all crimes committed.

We really do not need this in Australia.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 6:46:10 PM
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Dear Phillip S,

“Citing the latest findings from Germany's Federal Criminal Police Agency (BKA), on Wednesday the newspaper "Bild" reported that between 2014 and 2015, the number of crimes committed by refugees increased by 79 percent. Over the same period, however, the number of refugees in Germany increased by 440 percent.”
http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugee-related-crimes-in-germany-increase-less-than-influx-of-asylum-seekers/a-19053227

“The German Federal Office of Criminal Investigation (BKA) announced that crimes committed by refugees stood at the same level as those committed by native Germans. These findings are the result of an initial evaluation conducted by the BKA in cooperation with all federal states and commissioned by the Ministry of the Interior.”
http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugees-have-not-increased-crime-rate-in-germany/a-18848890

So rather than quoting raw figures why don't you come back with some comparisons of your own. Are refugees committing crimes at a greater rate than native Germans in the latest figures?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 7:33:51 PM
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steelie: Are refugees committing crimes at a greater rate than native Germans in the latest figures?

Still that's 142,500 crimes that would not have been committed if the moslems weren't there. Another good reason to get rid of 'em.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 8:06:12 PM
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An important part is "The data includes only those crimes in which a suspect has been caught."

You fail to take into account a German citizen (just as would be the same for most citizens of any country) will be more readily able to identify another German citizen,so the clean up rates for crimes will be higher as well they may also be on police databases.

But ask the majority to identify an African or Asian they would be less likely so we need the figures for all crimes not just the ones where a suspect has been caught.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 8:25:48 PM
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Given that there were about 1000 sexual assaults in Cologne in one night, either the assailants were previous migrant muslims or new ones that weren't charged.

If there were only 1700 odd assaults, that leaves only 700 for the rest of the year and the rest of the country? That does not add up.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 7:09:07 PM
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