Banjo, FGM is as bad/equally abhorrent as MGM. You either oppose both, or are not a credible voice. There was a thread overrun by feminists about this issue a while ago and the sexism, misiformation and ignorance displayed by some of them was notorious.

mickijo and polpak, both show so much contempt for rationalism, that they are not worth mentioning other than to flag them as fools. I couldn't make sense of either of what you were saying.

Steel,
If, by MGM, you are refering to penis splitting and other radical genitial multilations, I would agree that is abhorrent as FGM. However if you are referring to simple male circumcission I would disagree entirely. Firstly, there is argument that circumcission in males assists with hygene and if correct that is a plus and it only involves the removal of skin. FGM can involve the removal of flesh and organs. This may result in no pleasurable sexual feelings for the female and many complications later in childbirth.

I will not debate this matter further here (different subject) except to say that I do consider FGM as child sexual abuse and the guardians should be held responsible. Send me a link to the thread you referred to, it could be interesting.

In relation to my comments regarding part aboriginal kids taken into foster care. You should read the post again. Perhaps slower, as it is perfectly clear.

Every time someone wants to implement a solution to the abusing of aboriginal children the left bring out the racist card. The miserable failure of the lefts policies which has resulted in a lot of sexual abuse of children is denied. It is time we listened to the likes of men like Noel Pearson whose only political motive is to see his people free. It is amazing that the left fails to mention the rights of children to grow up without sexual abuse but they are quick to champion the ACT porn industry.

Runner, if by the left you mean people like me who work in my community to prevent these incidents happening, or doctors and nurses, social workers, even government bureaucrats, then I'd rather have them around than people like you who sit on the side lines and give stupid commentary.

If by the left you mean people who actually walk their talk and give stuff then so be it, call us lefties, happy to wear the tag.

But where does this place you on the spectrum of politics and action?

A Mr Nobody who criticises everyone and everything that you don't have the guts or the heart to get engaged with?

As for the race card, what else can you call isolating one section of the Australian community for police, army and medical inspection?

And why hasn't your wonderful Prime Minister seen fit to act after the many reports published about this over the last decade?

Race card you say? By any defintion you are one the most racist posters here on OLO.

No run along and grow a brain runner.

Runner, if by the left you mean people like me who work in my community to prevent these incidents happening, or doctors and nurses, social workers, even government bureaucrats, then I'd rather have them around than people like you who sit on the side lines and give stupid commentary.

If by the left you mean people who actually walk their talk and give a stuff then so be it, call us lefties, happy to wear the tag.

But where does this place you on the spectrum of politics and action?

A Mr Nobody who criticises everyone and everything that you don't have the guts or the heart to get engaged with?

As for the race card, what else can you call isolating one section of the Australian community for police, army and medical inspection?

And why hasn't your wonderful Prime Minister seen fit to act after the many reports published about this over the last decade?

Race card you say? By any defintion you are one the most racist posters here on OLO.

Now do everyone a favour and 'run along' and come back when you've got something worthwhile to contribute.

"However if you are referring to simple male circumcission I would disagree entirely." Simple huh? You are demonstrating some of the prejudices already. Is it surprising? No. Feminism is a very powerful and persuasive form of sexism. In fact it's been a part of our 'education' for way too long.

"Firstly, there is argument that circumcission in males assists with hygene.....it only involves the removal of skin."
Ever heard of a shower? It is far more damaging than "only" on multiple levels.

"FGM can involve the removal of flesh and organs. This may result in no pleasurable sexual feelings for the female and many complications later in childbirth."
So does MGM. That first remark is a deceptive claim to make in Australia but I cover this in the thread. You are grossly undereducated about MGM. Genital mutilation is wrong. Gender is irrelevent to the issue.

"Send me a link to the thread you referred to, it could be interesting." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=443#8854

runner: "It is amazing that the left fails to mention the rights of children to grow up without sexual abuse but they are quick to champion the ACT porn industry."
It is amazing how incredibly stupid you are. Deadly serious.