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Why atheism should change

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An idiot could believe on his own that he doesn't understand the world and then has unshakable belief that no deity is there. He then understands the world he doesn't understand.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 5 September 2016 5:47:41 PM
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Profound, nicknamenick. Very profound. Was that Chopra?

http://wisdomofchopra.com
Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 5 September 2016 6:38:01 PM
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This site is intended for entertainment purposes only. It in no way reflects the thoughts of Deepak Chopra.
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Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 5 September 2016 7:44:34 PM
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NathanJ: Atheists have a record of attacking religion,

No they don't. You have it all Topsy Turvy. Religionists attack Atheists then when their argument is replied too the reply is seen as an attack on Religion. Most Atheists don't even bother to think about Religion unless it gets shoved in their faces by Religionists.

NathanJ: Finally many atheists, do have a view of hate (towards religion) as they are constantly trying and aiming to prove religion is a false concept to accept in a lot of cases.

See my comment above.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 2:30:14 AM
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AJ Philips,

<<If you agree that there is a diet in which the only meat eaten is fish, and that some people have such a diet, then you agree that pescetarianism exists as a concept/phenomenon. You might think it’s stupid or less morally righteous, but you accept that it is a thing. There is no way around that.>>

The facts are, I don't agree there is such a diet, labelled Pescatarianism. It's a word to describe something. It's not something I accept, acknowledge and I don't have to accept any individual principle behind it. Many (who eat meat), state to me they eat fish, but state they are vegetarian, which they are not. They never will be. Some will see that as a high moral stance, (as you have), but the lack of acceptance (in terms of Pescetarianism), is simply a fact, (that being you can't eat fish, (which is meat) and claim to be vegetarian.

It's like walking into a shop and not paying for something. It's not right.

When atheists try to prove a point, endlessly, life is made very difficult for some who are religious...

<<Difficult in what way? Difficult to maintain delusional beliefs perhaps. That would be the purpose of endlessly discrediting religious claims, I’m guessing.>>

Difficult, in more words that I can describe. You only have to look at the 'high attack rates', in society with words like "poisonous belief systems" on this page. My sister, (who isn't religious) now volunteers at a ADRA shop, run by the Seventh Day Adventist Church. I never thought she'd take on a role with a Church. Doing something positive, I question spending a life time "endlessly discrediting religious claims."

<<To portray criticism of religious beliefs as an encroachment on one’s right to believe is ludicrous and is manifest of the offence that religions perceive in not being able to control everything unchallenged>>

Most criticism is harsh, with no opportunity offered for balanced debate.

<<When I was a Christian. I wish someone had challenged my beliefs earlier. My life could have turned out very differently.>>

What about now?
Posted by NathanJ, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 2:46:20 AM
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NathanJ: What about now?

I know, for one thing, I wouldn't be even looking at Islam. How backward could you get.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 7:43:32 AM
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