Please understand I know if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
But in the house it sometimes converts to Apes.
It hurts to know so very many kids ,wifes, and daughters the young and vulnerable have signed AWAs that give NO PAY RISES IN 5 YEARS!
How can this mob say workers must help the economy with reduced living standards while pay rises rarely matched in most workplaces take place?
Should by some nightmare John Howard be returned to power this country will take 20 years to recover.

Whats got you convinced someone else will be any different?.

Pay the polyticks another 200%. That way we might get some real talent in there, the present crop have failed dismally.

"Workchoices" seems like an interesting word considering that for some employees there is no 'choice' to be made. From the boss' perspective it's either "my way or the highway" - and all this while we are told there is almost full employment!

I think it's fine for politicians to get a pay rise provided that they have to demonstrate the same sorts of contributions to productivity or outcomes that the rest of us have to demonstrate when we ask for a pay rise.

Let's get them to ask a simple question "What did I ACHIEVE today?"

If the answer is not forthcoming let's not pay them more. This after all is the criterion by means of which they restrict OUR pay packets. Let's see what they can achieve if they have to have performance based pay!

"let's not pay them any more". garpet, pay close attention as i may not get a chance to say this another 100 times: nobody asked you what pollies should be paid. you can pretend to be a citizen, but you're not. you're a subject in a polliarchy. there, i got that in. do likewise, all of you.

the pollies say what you should be paid, instead. see the difference? they have power over you, not the reverse. mostly they don't bother you, of course. you're a free person. as free as a sheep in a paddock, anyway. now go have a nice munch of grass, and raise some more wool- the boss likes wooly sheep, as long as they don't get above themselves.

Hi Belly

The AWA that I signed and have seen others signed include performance reviews every year. The first year I received about an 8% pay rise and about 6% the next year. Considering my base rate was a lot higher than under the award I did extremely well. I am sure their is abuse and exceptions but nearly all I know who have been on AWA's are better off.