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Should the Queensland Premier now act responsibly?
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Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 8:20:32 PM
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The mind-boggling arrogance of mainstream politicians telling Hanson that she must act 'responsbly' (almost) strikes me dumb. The very fact that these turds themselves have not acted responsily themselves is the reason Pauline Hanson took votes from them.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 4:02:07 PM
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The race is on to create a caricature of Hanson. To put a caricature of her into the frame. It is apparently important that One Nation's policies are not read, discussed and subjected to critical examination.
The knee-jerk attack on Hanson by a highly paid Human Rights public servant caused me to take a look at Hanson's policies. There is nothing outrageous. Many of the policies make good sense. So, the angry buzzing in the hive is because....? A question worth asking. Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 4:20:02 PM
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Anyone who heard her on TV last night would have no doubt that the Queensland Premier is just too thick to know if she was acting responsibly or not.
I often wonder how many of the words she utters, written for her obviously by a spin doctor, she actually understands. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 4:48:07 PM
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The Queensland premier has every right to ask Hansen and co to be responsible.
It is largely because of the large numbers of scared Queensland voters ( and some OLO good 'ol boys) that someone like Hansen is back in the Senate. Hansen should stop trying to garner votes for herself by playing up to the racial intolerance and nationalist leanings of many in Queenslands rural areas. If you scare these sorts of people with comments about us being "swamped by Asians", and that the terrorist Muslims will be building Mosques all over the countryside soon, then the Queensland Premier is quite right in suggesting Hansen rein it in. Hansen will cause far more trouble amongst our generally peaceful multicultural country population with her racist inflammatory comments than any other person if she isn't told to keep her trap shut unless she has some proper policies to discuss. Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 7 July 2016 2:03:39 AM
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Theres no pleasing some people Suseonline,
First you think we're all against women, then you find something else to pick on... Why should Pauline stop "trying to garner votes for herself by playing up to the racial intolerance and nationalist leanings of many in Queenslands rural areas." ? Does she not have a right to express herself and her ideas freely? Its up to us to find out the facts and make an informed decision whether to vote for her or not. You suggest 'racial intolerance' but I could instead point out 'ignorance' on your part. Your lefty-ness will only come back to bite you in the behind anyway. Your support of women; and support of refugees and immigration by extension of your opposition to racial intolerance will only end up with foreign muslim raping Australian women or imposing Sharia law upon them in their own town and streets and when that happens the only one looking like the fool will be you, for your shortsightedness. Maybe if we we're living in Calais you'd be saying of the rapings 'Move along, nothing to see here' because you'd be too shite to admit you were wrong. You claim 'racial discrimination' but wheres all the headlines of Nationalist gangs getting around beating up foreigners? Where are these people? They don't exist. Maybe its all just BS and ignorant people like yourselves cant face the facts that reasonable people have legitimate concerns about Islam. My argument is that with the 'right to freedom of religion' democracy's hands are tied to deal with this issue properly. What about people who support neither the gay agenda nor the Islam agenda? In this sense its your left ideology that creates a threat on our streets as neither of these groups are going to get along. I do however agree that Pauline doesn't need to scream her agenda so foolishly, she should show a little more tact and not spoil her chances to do some good. She needs to be careful of the things she says and how the media portray her. Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 7 July 2016 2:52:43 AM
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Suseonline,
You are usually on the front foot demanding that there be no government support for religious schools. Apparently One Nation's Pauling Hanson was concerned about poor governance of Muslim schools that has attracted federal criticism and withdrawal of some grants. Many millions go the Muslim schools and from both State and federal governments. See here, http://www.onenation.com.au/current_affairs/battling-single-mum-takes-on-islamic-schools Now while I might support support for independent schools I would not be bending over backwards to give millions of taxpayers dollars to build new schools to waste money indoctrinating young minds on religion. Where there is considerable proof of poor governance - which means wastage of government funds - as is the circumstance with Muslim schools that are being built like topsy using taxpayers money!- I am opposed to government funding. You have said before if my memory is right that you have voted for the Nationals. One Nation's policies in the main would be indistinguishable from the Nationals except I imagine for (say) One Nation's support for euthanasia. Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:43:29 AM
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Suzie, you are taking that attitude because you sense that we are also
rightish voters. You need to look at your attitude the way that the moslems see it. In moslem terms you are what they call a "useful idiot". These are people who defend moslems at every opportunity even though they are not moslems themselves. They are helpful to moslems as they cover up and excuse moslems own attitudes. It is a well known Islamic technique and is encouraged. Some are advocating an Islamic Reformation. It will never happen although there are one or two organisations that are advocating from within the religion for reformation. People on the right of politics seem to be the only ones who know what is going on with Islamic immigration. The left is so preoccupied with opposing the right that they are not looking over their shoulder while they use moslems to beat the right over the head. As a woman you should be more concerned than us men. Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 7 July 2016 9:52:31 AM
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//your opposition to racial intolerance will only end up with foreign muslim raping Australian women or imposing Sharia law upon them in their own town and streets and when that happens the only one looking like the fool will be you, for your shortsightedness.//
Might I ask what social problems you think Pauline's dreaded 'Yellow Peril' will bring to our shores? That they'll kidnap all our cats and dogs to make into stir-fry, or cause carnage on their roads with their terrible driving skills? What is it that the Hanson supporters have against, say, South Koreans? All the ones I've met seem quite nice. //reasonable people have legitimate concerns about Islam.// Apparently 'reasonable people have legitimate concerns' about Asians as well. But nobody will actually say what they are. Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:11:07 AM
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There are two type of people in this world one Globalists and the other Nationalists. This is evident from the exit of Britain from the EU because they could see they were loosing their culture and being overrun by immigration because they could not control their borders. Those crying in Britain will continue to believe open borders is the answer to world problems. However Brussels and Paris are examples of free movement of people, there are ideologies that want to rule the World as One State.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:23:53 PM
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Suse,
what You fail to acknowledge is that people see immigration as an important issue that both major parties will not allow debate about. Both major parties have an agreement not to discuss immigration. Bob Hawke brokered that deal and it has stopped discussion about immigration ever since. But it is discussed in places where people gather all over the country. Try spending time in places like pubs and clubs or where mums wait to pick the kids up and see. It only needs a news item to set the viewpoints off. You need to acknowledge that the views stated by Pauline are a reflection of what the general public think, as are those of Senator Cory Bernardi. Pauline does not make up what she has to say. The evidence is there to clearly see, if you are not in denial. It is high time the government opened up discussion on immigration and curtailed the importation of those that will not integrate and want to impose their cultural values on us. There is no deep seated racism in the Australian population, but there is a lot of concern that our cultural values are being eroded. Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 7 July 2016 12:24:29 PM
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Toni, the Chinese are much better migrants than moslems. They are not
running around the world bombing the the cities into which they have moved. However they are quite racial in some ways. Note how many Australians do you see working in Chinese businesses ? There is some excuse because they speak Chinese in those businesses. As businessmen there is a culture that is different in that they are really ruthless if you let them have an inch. I had very little experience in a business sense, but what I had was not good. A friend who did a lot of business in China advised me not to get involved any further. It was explained to me that in China the law is not really obeyed unless it was certain you will get caught. They do consider "Long Noses" to be barbarians. So take them as you find them. Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 7 July 2016 4:12:13 PM
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Suse,
"Hansen will cause far more trouble amongst our generally peaceful multicultural country population with her racist inflammatory comments than any other person if she isn't told to keep her trap shut unless she has some proper policies to discuss" Not as much as Muhammad and he's not even in Queensland. Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 7 July 2016 6:42:05 PM
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Dear Suse,
Thank You for your well reasoned and intelligent comments. Michael Bradley writing for The Drum tells us that: "It's obviously perplexing because Pauline Hanson has always had visible difficulty with her debating skills. She comes across as not very bright, perpetually very angry and confused, a person who struggles to articulate how she feels about the world beyond saying "I don't like it." "... What she says is frequently reprehensible. She can appropriately be criticised and called to account for the offence and hurt she causes by her repetitive and irrational attacks on everyone and everything she perceives from her extremely limited frame of understanding to be not representative of the "real Australians" her nostalgically imagined tribe." To read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-07/bradley-why-simply-calling-hanson-racist-doesn't-help/7575596 Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 July 2016 7:10:40 PM
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Thanks for that Foxy. That writer certainly says it far more eloquently than me :)
Sometimes I do despair that we seem to have an OLO full of Hansen-type people, and I get sick of trying to explain myself. I have come to believe now that if I said the sky was blue on a fine day, they would all say it was green! The bottom line is that only 4% of the population voted for One Nation, so that is hardly the 'general population' or 'most people' or 'battlers' or 'salt of the earth' or whatever other word is used to describe the 'average Australian' that is supposed to agree with everything Hansen spits out. I know that the bulk of Australian voters did not vote for her or the other fringe-dwelling parties up for election this time, so I have faith that common sense will continue to prevail in our great multicultural country . Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 7 July 2016 7:29:40 PM
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Suse,
You suggest that One nation does not have 'proper policies' Well here you go a list of their 'proper policies' http://www.onenation.com.au/policies Some constructive reading for you and Foxy. You may be surprised as to their extent and common sense. If the current Queensland Premier is not scared of One Nation at the next state election she should be. Pauline has let slip that she intends to have candidates in every state seat. Remember that the current government cannot afford to lose one seat. The current opposition should now approach Pauline about preference swap. If nothing else, you have to admit that Pauline has dedication and tenacity. I do hope my minor contributions here have helped Pauline. Of course I voted for ON candidates. We need more politicians like her. Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:16:26 PM
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Dear Suse,
You're right - only a small minority voted for Pauline Hanson. Which simply goes to show that her voice is not needed because to the rest of Australia she doesn't have anything meaningful to say. We don't see the world or this country of ours as a place of unending threat and we don't believe that the whole establishment is ranged against us. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:15:58 PM
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Foxy, the Drum ! Really !
Yes it is starting again, she is not very bright; she cannot debate; etc etc etc. More put down, you are following the path trod by the main political parties. I am embarrassed for you that you would be so petty. She may not have had the educational advantages of yourself but she does have the guts to have a go despite knowing her own disadvantage. Of course she is not on here own now but I have no idea how many helpers that she has and you have no idea of their knowledge or abilities. For me, I will just watch and listen and wish her good luck. Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:39:54 PM
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Dear Bazz,
You're using old arguments. We've heard them all before. Not good enough this time around. Try again. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 July 2016 10:43:10 PM
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Yeah girls, Pauline will be no worry for the Qld Premier next election!
According to the smh she only got 9.15% of the senate vote and the greens got 7.57% and they are still counting. In the house of Reps her candidates got only about 10% to 21% of the vote. So, on those figures, the state government has NOTHING to worry about, after all they have a large majority in the House, don't they? They can afford to lose that amount of votes to another party. Yeah, the Premier can show Pauline the finger and maybe the opposition will not bother talking to her about preferences. It is such a small number of votes, who cares! Good to see you girls doing the sums. Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 7 July 2016 11:39:00 PM
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Foxy;
The old arguments, the same old story, hmmm ? Perhaps that should be telling you something. Posted by Bazz, Friday, 8 July 2016 11:38:54 AM
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Taking a fresh look as directed,
Sign this petition http://www.change.org/p/emma-watson-spend-one-week-in-a-calais-migrant-camp-for-feminism <Hollywood actress Emma Watson is being asked to spend one week in a notorious European migrant camp in exchange for a $100,000 donation to the charity of her choice. Lawyer, author and free speech activist Mike Cernovich, who first made the offer last May, re-issued the proposition Wednesday alongside a petition calling for the same. The petition, created by a separate mass-migration proponent, similarly calls for the Harry Potter star to “spend one week in a Calais migrant camp for feminism (without bodyguards).” “In order to show how safe current migration is to Europe, particularly regarding the cause of feminism (I reject wholeheartedly the notion that North African and Middle Eastern migrants are unsafe, and rapists), Emma Watson should spend a week’s holiday in a Calais migrant camp, without guards of course, to show how safe, and how pro feminism these migrants are,” it sarcastically states. The proposal first made headlines in January after garnering 8,000 signatures – although that number has now more than tripled. Watson and other rich Hollywood progressives have been accused of demanding an increase in mass-migration while totally ignoring the mounting negative consequences in the name of political correctness." What about some of the apologists from Oz and those grandstanding their moral superiority on OLO in particular? Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 8 July 2016 2:49:37 PM
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Those whining feminist grimalkins of Oz could use the week as a romantic holiday abroad.
But wait, that's not all! With as a bonus, some free education on Islamic traditions that goes with the package. Try before you buy for back home in Oz. Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 8 July 2016 3:01:07 PM
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While not a fan of Hansen, the queensland premiere's government is a textbook case of labor incompetence. In a short time she has racked up huge debt and tried to cover it up by raiding the pension and public company accounts.
For AP to warn PH to be responsible is the pot calling the kettle black. Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 8 July 2016 3:28:50 PM
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Come on girls, please.
Annastacia Palaszczuk is premier of Queensland for 3 reasons. 1/ Her Father. 2/ She is a member of the Labor party. 3/ there were only 6 left of them to chose a leader from. No one in their right mind expects here to govern. She does what she is told to by the machine, even if she does have trouble enunciating it, whatever it is. Hanson is her own lady, & is where she is because of her own strengths & weaknesses, efforts & abilities, & has no trouble enunciating her opinions. Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 8 July 2016 4:04:56 PM
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Once again, thank you Queensland for electing Pauline Hanson.
Pauline has proved again that Australians still have a conscience. Pauline was right to say in her maiden speech that Australia would be swamped by Asians.Take any train east of Melbourne and white Europeans are hard to find. On the west of Melbourne .Trains are being filled by blacks.Freshly arrived on tourist and refugee visas. Imagine being an aboriginal.No voice for them in the new exciting Socialist Victoria. A new Sikh temple allowing dagger wearing Sikhs to protect themselves from attacks by Muslims.Now the Andrews Government overruled the Bendigo and Melton Councils by allowing Mosques to be built ,despite the local population not wanting to be the centre of a war zone. You vote is important? Only if you voted for a party that listens to the people.The LIBLAB coalition have ignored both white and Aboriginal Australians views for too long. Posted by BROCK, Saturday, 9 July 2016 11:52:38 AM
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When Pauline was acquitted of all charges, the almost $1 million that she had paid to the government should have been repaid to her, with interest. It has not. She paid that money to the government under the threat of her home being sold by the government. The monies need to be repaid to her.
There is also an outstanding matter of her legal costs and compensation for her jailing on trumped-up charges.
What Pauline has to say about this is up to her but I would expect these matters be resolved before any discussions on who has or has not been responsible.
The current Premier is now the third Queensland Premier to have done nothing to resolve these issues. That speaks volumes in relation to responsibility.