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The Forum > General Discussion > The question on gay marriage is prety simple now.

The question on gay marriage is prety simple now.

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Phanto, regardless of what type of relationship you are in, you are not married unless you have been pronounced married by a celebrant/priest and you have a marriage cert. Anything else is simply a relationship.

In any case, its looking likely that we wont have to worry about a few things because labors chances are looking grim.

So we will either have a plebiscite bill go through the house, or nothing.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 3 July 2016 6:09:55 AM
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Having recently attended a 60th Birthday organized by D a homosexual son and his lover T for D's mother. The mother made a slip in thanking them for the occasion by calling her son's live in lover T as his wife.
So homosexuals are 'husband' and 'wife' in the new marriage act.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 3 July 2016 9:04:15 AM
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Dear Rehctub,

In your heart of hearts you are either married or you are not. No state-bully can change this fact. If you ask those bastards for papers, this probably means that you are not sure in yourself, the result being that you ascribe them with legitimacy.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 3 July 2016 9:44:34 AM
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A J Philips:

I thought you had said goodbye to me – you must have been lying.

You keep calling the issue of government involvement a ‘red herring’ and yet it underpins everything you do on this forum. You are back here today arguing for the government to change the Marriage Act when it is not necessary for them to do so. Same-sex couples do not have to involve the government in order to define their relationship as a marriage. If they want to be married then all they need to do is to decide to call their relationship a marriage. There is nothing in the law that prevents them from doing this. There is nothing which says that the only people who have a right to define any particular relationship as a marriage is the government.

You want the government to be involved when they do not have to be involved in order for same-sex couples to be able to declare their relationship a marriage. Why do you want that? Why are you calling on the government when they do not need to be involved at all? It is totally illogical to ask someone for something when you already have it.

Thanks for the link – your research skills are amazing. I could never have done that.

“You really think you're on to something here, don't you?”

So do you or else you would not continue to argue with me. Who would bother arguing when they think that the point being made is irrelevant?

“Now where's that mhaze character?”

He is lining up outside the tent eagerly waiting for his turn to take on the legendary A J Philips who by his own admission is the greatest pugilist of his era.
Posted by phanto, Sunday, 3 July 2016 9:59:40 AM
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Yuyutsu, if you are married as you say without ligi papers, then split, you are free to move on the moment you agree, whereas if you are married with ligit papers you have to file for divorce.

Need I say any more to devoid your argument.

Furthermore, for anyone to suggest a gay couple are husband and wife is just ridiculous. We might as well allow windows and widowers to marry their cat or dog as their relationship is also extremely loving.

The whole issue has just been made out to be far more important than it is and its about time we came back to the real issues, as the latest non result from the election shows just how dysfunctional our system of government has become.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 3 July 2016 10:02:36 AM
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rehctub:

“Phanto, regardless of what type of relationship you are in, you are not married unless you have been pronounced married by a celebrant/priest and you have a marriage cert. Anything else is simply a relationship.”

That is your definition of marriage. Why should everyone abide by your definition of the word? I can call my relationship with my goldfish a marriage if I want and no one can stop me. Your definition is pointless unless there is some way of making people abide by it.

Your definition discriminates against people who want to call their relationship a marriage. It is bigoted in favour of your own definition.

No one needs anyone else to tell them what their relationship is unless they are so insecure about that relationship that they need some authority figure to authorise it.
Posted by phanto, Sunday, 3 July 2016 10:14:29 AM
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