ttbn,

I agree that Turnbull has failed as a communicator.

Problem is that he has nothing of substance to communicate that would enthral the average voter.

Mind you, Abbott was pretty pathetic in that way too...although in entirely different way.

"I disagree that he is following the same policies as Abbott..."

This what I don't understand...can you point to a policy direction that differs from the IPA agenda which Abbott championed?

You are right Poirot, Turnbull has disappointed many people who thought he could revive the Coalition's chances after Abbott became too toxic (crazy?) for even his own party members.

Ttbn is incorrect in suggesting that the Coalition would have romped it in if Abbott was still the leader. The majority of voters who still thought such a bumbling, far too conservative bloke could continue his job well were lost when he 'knighted' Prince Phillip! (Mind you, the raw onion eating episode still sticks in my mind too.)

Surely that act alone will go down in Australia political history as truly the most laughable action ever? Nope, they were definitely right to cut him loose.

Doog - there you go again"Public Hospitals are supposed to be free"? Please explain? You mean that the doctors get paid handsomely and so do the other medical staff in fact hospitals are over staffed and very well paid. They are not free. Nothing is free.
You are deluded into thinking there is a magic pudding that replenishes itself as you eat it. Government make nothing, earn nothing as it all comes from the taxpayer. Have a think about it.

JBower, where did you get your facts about hospitals being over-staffed, and medical staff being 'well paid'? According to who? You?
Do you work in the health industry then?
I do, and you have no idea what you are on about.

As I said, it would be false economy to charge people to use public hospitals on top of their Medicare levy and taxes. That would only serve to keep many sick people away until they are very ill, by which time the hospital will need to spend far more money on them.

Piorot, wrong thread I know, but the libs are paying about $40 billion per year in interest on Labors debt. That's a huge slice of the additional debt they have rung up in less than three years in office. So add to this the money spent on dealing with labors illegals debacle, along with the cuts Abbott proposed that were blocked, and I doubt much, if any, of the new debt is actually the libs own debt. Wouldn't you agree.

As for free medical, as JBower quite correctly states, nothing is Free. Just because some low life druggie pays nothing to see a doctor doesn't mean its free, it just means someone else has paid the bill and that's the whole problem with the entitlement brigade, the one that TA tried to bring undone, but failed.

While I myself am a Abbott convert, having on this very site stated that he had kicked too many 'own goals' and needed to go, it turns out he was the better of the two to get the hard job done. Of cause if you, or anyone else belongs to the 'entitlement brigade', or those who bury their heads in the sand and say we don't have a problem, then its pretty much pointless trying to convince you otherwise. So I guess it would be a case of 'let the future generations clean up the mess' because we don't want to tackle the tough issues. So by all means just keep expecting free everything, but some of us realize its not actually free.

rehctub,

Though you're kinda dear to me on this forum - you keep rattling the same line....gleefully ignoring anything counter that is put to you.

If you wish to examine the "entitlement brigade", you should start your analysis with the top 10% - you know, all those negative gearers who think the taxpayer should help fund their investments.