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Will the voterts fall for labors spin again?

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Abbott ran a program of lies, and more lies, and when he got elected his program was totally different. As you know. That is why he got sacked by public opinion.
Posted by doog, Thursday, 23 June 2016 3:27:34 PM
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Doog - Public opinion cannot sack anyone. I few demented souls in the ABC do not count either lol.
Mate, labour politicians including Gillard and Rudd told lies as well. I think you need to have a re-think on all this.
I think we should expand on "Phobias". If it is irrational to fear the beheading, murdering, lying and repression of islam then it is certainly as much a crime to fear Tony Abbott.
TA was giving our country the start of a sort out we so sorely need. Never mind Doog the labour party will ride to the rescue and really stuff us up. It is what we deserve for even listening to those total fools.
Long live Tony Abbott I say!
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 23 June 2016 3:53:59 PM
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You are 100% wrong there. Public opinion did get Abbott sacked. Abbott was a one man party he wanted to be the next generation dictator, just like in Singapore. As you are aware.
Turnbull has been a disappointment and does not deserve another term. You cannot take money from one program so you can start up another. We need to properly fund the ones that we already have without new ones. Besides that the libs need a clean out. The Conservatives need to make their own party
Posted by doog, Thursday, 23 June 2016 4:32:17 PM
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Doog is right of course.
If Abbott was popular with the voters, do you think the majority of his fellow Libs would have thrown him out of the top job? Of course not.

I doubt any of the politicians in parliament today could say they were completely truthful with the electorate.

The latest debacle re Medicare proves that both Shorten and Turnbull are lying through their teeth. If the AMA smell a rat re the privatization of Medicare, then the rats are most certainly there.

The current campaign being run on TV re people being encouraged not to go to the Emergency Departments unless they have real emergency problems, and saying to go to their GP or after hours clinics instead, makes me laugh.
Medicare payments to GP surgeries are not keeping up with the cost of living, so bulk-billing is decreasing at a rapid rate.

It is free medical treatment at Emergency Departments for any medical problem
that keeps people coming in there, and no other reason.
Medicare is a joke.
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 24 June 2016 12:35:15 AM
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The lib MP's thought that TA was a problem with the electorate and MT would solve it for them. Democracy at it's best and the result of that will be known in just over a weeks time.
Couple of nuggets of fact. Australia has more doctors than it needs. These Doctors are by normal standards handsomely paid. The AMA is a totally political organisation. Get a group of doctors together and all they will talk about is money lol.
Re Medicare and rats. Firstly if you made the average punter pay $5 then normal people would grumble and pay. The dross would rather die than pay. Go to any hospital and see these hero's rock up. My favourite was a young bloke who fell off his skateboard a few days before and told the staff to ensure the safety of his expensive Light Sabre toy lol. It would be funny if people were not working two jobs to pay for this. Mind you when it took twelve people to lift a woman who had collapsed in casualty I thought that under-staffing is probably not an issue.
We can run a whole thread on Public Service and especially Medical feather bedding and waste.
Posted by JBowyer, Friday, 24 June 2016 8:04:14 AM
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That is shocking having 12 people standing around waiting for someone to fall over. Is that true or is did you read that in the Australian.
There are people in society that cause their own emergencies by their own consumption of alcohol or drugs. Do you separate these people as Abbott would do or do you treat them for their ailments.
There is going to be a whole lot more people relying on public hospitals the way pensions are going. Medibank has gone up 11% / Fn in two years. The pension has gone up 1 % / fn each year. Medibank payments take the entire pension rise, which leaves nothing for any other rises.
Abbott and hockey factored everything to cut in after the 2016 election. So all of that will happen January 2017.
Posted by doog, Friday, 24 June 2016 9:37:52 AM
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