Yes Toni, I guess the same could have been said for John Howard, and look how many regretted that vote. Kevin 07 was a disaster and here we have Bill on a similar spiel, but with no money.

579, welfare is not so much the problem, as the way it is easily wasted is what needs to be addressed.

Look at these fools in Aurukun. First we gave them land rights. Then we handed them control, then we apologized, but its still our fault.

The only blame we should bare is paying welfare in cash.

As for increasing the min wage three fold, let me know when its in, cause I will leave the trust loss alone and find a low skilled job.

As for voting, we have a choice between the labor green alliance, with their recklessness, or liberal wets as they are known. What a choice.

There is no labor green alliance, and labor said at no cost will there be.
Turnbull said he will take green preferences in marginal seats.
Barnaby and his fish problem will not be as simple as killing the carp. Mass deaths of fish will put ammonia into the water and kill everything.

Welfare money needs to be spent, i don't think people have any option. Remote Indigenous are a different problem which no one is game to tackle.

Our economy is still growing with out mining. Now that the expertise that went west has returned the economy will get bigger.

The only ones that benefited from mining was the Gina's etc.

Hey rehctub,

At what point do the 'welfare recipients' and/or 'left wing social justice warriors' become such a voting block that political parties fear and pander to, that we pass a 'point of critical mass' where 'Austerity' becomes inevitable?

Your way is stopping paying them cash, mine is stop the free handout mentality and making them work for it, whilst getting new skills.
I don't want to degrade or dis-empower them, I want to empower them to make better choices and havethe tools to do it.

If I was dictator, I'd change the system to be 'capitalist jobs system with a socialist base', (ending the free ride / welfare mentality) but I wouldn't create the system like I was punishing people and forcing them into slavery for not having proper jobs.

I'd build the system around accepting a 5% unemployment figure.

I'd create hundreds of thousands of new jobs that didn't conflict with existing jobs, a massive infrastructure project, opening the whole entire country up with that new infrastructure to better productivity.

I'd use technology to empower people, not imprison them.
For example you see people addicted to apps playing games and doing tasks in the game and earning achievements and badges in the game.
Why not make that real life?

I'd use modern technology - apps and simulations to train people how to do everything (blue collar) so that the people who were in the welfare class, they get fast skills and training as well as employment in real work environments so that they learn how to do better for themselves get normal capitalist jobs ( out of the socialist base system) and the know-how in life to slingshot past the other working class.

Not only teach people how to get skills and good jobs, but how to save money, invest it or get their own homes, and start their own businesses.
So that getting ahead and making the most of life becomes so easy no-one will fall between the cracks and not do well for themselves in life.

I'd make it all easy like in a single app.

I have one indigenous household in my street where there is a minimum of $2000 coming in weekly and the kids still ask for sandwiches.
Someone please tell me why we pay people who have never and will never put into the pot?
On the other hand someone tell me who an old age pensioner who has worked all his life and paid his due taxes can't get in time medical treatment or enough to live on.

For once I think the media is getting it right !
The people are just fed up and are not interested.
I think people sense what is coming and can see that the political
parties are just not capable of acknowledging it. They are each afraid
that if they point to the elephant in the corner the other will say
that they are paranoid and it is just a little mouse.