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Peter Dutton and the politically incorrect truth.
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 20 May 2016 8:19:42 AM
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Poirot, like all Politicians, including Bill, Mal will 'back' his man right up until he sacks him! There are no surprises there at all.
Rehctub, I think we all know exactly what Dutton meant with his comments, don't you think? He certainly wasn't talking about any of the immigrants that may be coming here from predominantly Caucasian/Western countries now was he? So, he was being racist, no doubt about it.... Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 20 May 2016 10:43:41 AM
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Suze,
Whenever someone says "I think we all know what xx meant", that person has attached a groundless meaning to what was said and is seeking approval. So I believe that you believe that Dutton was being racist, contrary to all the evidence. Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 21 May 2016 5:50:02 AM
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SM,
"Not only is Dutton’s position contradicted by evidence in Australia, it is also out of step with international thinking. Evidence and research First, Dutton’s comments contradict the government’s own data. The Department of Social Services, which is responsible for settling refugees, has found the vast majority of recently arrived refugees are literate in their own language and have attended school in their home countries. The majority could understand spoken English when they arrived in Australia. Second, a review of studies examining the economic impact of refugees in Australia found no evidence they impose a net cost on Australia in the long term. Research shows while refugees may find it difficult to get jobs initially, over time their labour participation rate becomes much the same as the rest of the community. Previous government-commissioned research has found refugees are a young and entrepreneurial cohort. Recent figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics confirmed this finding." Etc... http://theconversation.com/duttons-refugee-claims-are-out-of-step-with-evidence-and-thinking-at-home-and-abroad-59626 Humanitarian migrants the most entrepreneurial: ABS report "Humanitarian migrants were the most entrepreneurial while skilled migrants generated the most income in 2009-2010, according to figures released for the first time by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) today...." "....Humanitarian migrants displayed greater entrepreneurial qualities and reported a higher proportion of income from their own unincorporated businesses and this income increased sharply after five years of residency.” http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/mediareleasesbyReleaseDate/B2414902EC4790E7CA257F0F00115949?OpenDocument Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 21 May 2016 8:46:20 AM
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incredibly what is always missed in these debates is how the socialist luv to spend other peoples money in the name of compassion. Most of them are sucking on the public purse and the obvious thing is that if they were so compassionate they would put up out of their own pocket. No they want higher wages for teachers, nurses and public servants and still want tax payer money to go to promote their own idealogies.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 21 May 2016 10:13:18 AM
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Mr faux Christian is at it again....Lol!
Some of us support a couple of kiddies through "Christian" organisations. I will point out that the people I deal with in these organisations bare no resemblance to the incredible nasty faux Christian, runner. Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 21 May 2016 10:40:10 AM
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Yes I saw Dinner Tally's hypocrisy and was not surprised.
Now to address your vast bigotry, especially in the face of such contrary evidence.
"This is a function of them on average having less English language ability, less educational experience, different forms of family support, less pre-migration preparation, poorer physical and mental health and greater difficulty in having their qualifications and experience recognised,” the report says. In a 2010 survey of relatively new migrants to Australia, including 8500 refugees, half the respondents said they spoke English not well or not at all. The Australian Survey Research found 24.1 per cent were in paid work."
https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/working-culturally-and-linguistically-diverse-cald-ad/export
Whereas the skilled migrants fare completely differently such as the ones that you referred to.
I have brought in technicians on 457 visas incl one whose kids did not speak English. My wife (and english teacher) spent many hours with them getting them integrated into school.
Notably, that on 457 visas they were not entitled to housing, medicare or free schooling, but 10 years on they are well settled and contributing well, in vast contrast to the present cohort of illegal immigrants.
Suze,
I am interested that you find Dutton's comments racist, this would imply that:
1) Immigrant is a race,
2) To not be racist one is required to lie through one's teeth.