Blow it out yer ear, Loudmouth.

I've done my quota of conversing with sad act immature men for this month.

Cheers....

..and with that, he/she pirouettes and exits the stage, but not before parroting the party line and leaving many questions unanswered on this thread.

Hack.

Alas ! The swan exits Left, dying, to Spike Jones' 'Swan lake', leaving the question:

Yes/No

which lingers, and lingers .....

Hi Poirot,

No rush :) Whenever you get back, the questions will still be there.

On the other hand, you could try diversion, side-tracks, red herrings or even a good straw-man. Talk about Nauru, Manus island, that sort of thing. Compare the fascist Turnbull regime to the Nazis.

Or you could call Turnbull or Dutton or Abbott childish names: Turnbullion, Dutton the Dill, Abbott the Rabbit. Gosh, that's so clever, so funny, so conclusive - if people can have funny nick-names, that shows how bad they are.

Or you could confront realities, and answer those questions - I know that's not popular on the Opportunist Left, but you never know till you give it a go :)

Joe

SM and Loudmouth,
You blokes should read Poirots link on page 10. She was talking about those that arrive legally and then later apply for a 'protection visa'. The link does contain much info, some with not a lot of value but some interesting stuff as well.

In 2011-2012 roughly there were the same number of PV applicants that arrived here legally as there were illegals. Interestingly about half the legal arrivals were students. So they apply for protection and as they are here already they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Legal arrivals are NOT in detention whilst their application is processed.

The initial success rate for legal arrivals is 25% and after review is 44%. With about 7300 per year applying it seems to me that this area needs tightening up as it now is a back door immigration scheme for students. Dutton could well look hard at this.

For illegals (boat people) the initial success rate is 71% and after review is 82%. One can see why they take the risk of sea.

I am a bit disappointed that arrivals religion is not shown for any arrivals so one can only guess by the country of origin.

Banjo,

The final approval rate of illegal arrivals is closer to 98% as unresolved cases are not taken as accepted. This is mainly due to a judicial system that leans towards acceptance, and with boat arrivals destroying their documentation, their acceptance is far higher than plane arrivals.