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The Forum > General Discussion > Peter Dutton and the politically incorrect truth.

Peter Dutton and the politically incorrect truth.

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Good to see Dutton standing by what he said and ignoring the usual feral suspects. Don't like the fellow much, but he tells it the way it is.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 19 May 2016 8:01:19 PM
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SM,

You'll like this one...

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-greens-leader-richard-di-natale-fails-to-declare-home-pays-au-pairs-low-wage-20160519-goywxq

Greens leader Richard Di Natale fails to declare home, pays au pairs low wage

"Greens leader Richard Di Natale failed to declare his family farm in Victoria's Otway Ranges for 15 months, breaching parliamentary rules and potentially placing him in "serious contempt" of the Senate.
And Senator Di Natale has paid three au pairs to help with his family as little as $150 a week after tax, or $3.75 an hour - based on a standard 40-hour week - as well as room and board worth $300 a week."

And you do go on with your jabber - since WWII this country has been the beneficiaries of folk who have come here with not much English but plenty in the way of skills and the desire to get ahead - who have spawned generations of high achievers who have benefitted this country in so many ways.

You and the cohort here won't admit that as you're stymied by your vast bigotries and insular mentality.

Sad
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 19 May 2016 8:54:42 PM
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Dutton is a disgrace with his obvious racist remarks about refugees/immigrants.
At least we know exactly how he really thinks.
He is obviously a left-over stain from the Abbott days, and should have been shown the door as well....along with Morrison.

Immigrants built this nation to what it is today, and many of our original immigrants were also unable to speak English nor had a good education before arriving in Australia.
Yet, they managed to do well, in many cases

So Dutton should check out his own ancestry maybe, and see if any of his own family were none too educated when they arrived in this country!
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 19 May 2016 9:38:40 PM
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Suse,

"He is obviously a left-over stain from the Abbott days, and should have been shown the door as well....along with Morrison."

But Mal has backed him all the way!

According to Mal, Petey the Sadist is "outstanding" as Immigration Minister.

Which tells you a lot about this govt's agenda...
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 19 May 2016 9:59:33 PM
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Shadow Minsiter:

" ... many immigrants by boat are illiterate and largely unemployable. ... "

Oh come now, I would put a 3rd word manual laborer/rice paddy worker up against a half dozen of you flabby mob in field work any day of the week, but don't take my word for it, let's ask the cockies that know. Who are the best manual field workers?

Conversely, if you drop them in over their heads and out of their element without an adequate orientation then you are setting them up to fail, which in turn is a failure of the guvment.

I say to you:
Vygodskii
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Vygotsky

Now, my current and 2nd wife had only a primary school education in Islamic Indonesia, about 6 months in high school prior to the collapse of financial support, 6 months in a Pondok

(which she dropped out of on the grounds of being none too keen)

and yet now she holds a Diploma in Childcare and a Cert IV in Education Assistance - Special Needs.

To date this year she has paid in excess of $5,000 in tax

(which should have gone to her Super by way of Salary sacrifice i.m.o.)

and well on the way to repaying the not insignificant and on-going amount of money that has and is still being invested in her by the Australian guvment.

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and in the figures that you quote for those who have long term illness and disability, I wonder what % of that has been inflicted upon them by their "saviors?"
Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 19 May 2016 11:03:03 PM
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Of course, in Western Australia, as we might expect, there has been interference in the education system. When migrants go to TAFE to learn english as a second language, they do after a while arrive at the Certificate III level of Spoken and Written English where they learn how to write in paragraphs.

Then, once they know how to write a paragraph they are dumped in Certificate IV which is the equivalent of leaving level english. Only the very brightest and those who already hold a tertiary qualification in their own language succeed. As for the rest, it is off to the chicken factory. This is not a jump we expect our own to manage.

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Now, for me, it is back to thoughts of the refugee and disaster relief camps of the future. I would also have them double for training facilities for the military as Peace Keepers, as it would be a very real environment with very real dangers and yet at the same time, far safer than sucking up enrichment waste in Afghansitan or hunting Chinese subs.

Also, I would have them as scaled down "Special Economic Zones" not only to minimise costs, but also because as we progress into the so-called Asian citizens, it is my hope that in the mix their will be room for niches of trade bridges that connect direct to the local economy of our neighbors

(bearing in mind that many of our neighbors have 2 tiered economies with the top echelons dealing usually in US dollars,
(though I note with pleasure their are now emerging alternatives to this) and everyone else dealing in the local currency.))

Whilst it would be a project some years in the making, with a little more good will and a little creativity, the possibilities of making these camps self sufficient is not such an outlandish idea in my view.
Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 19 May 2016 11:26:17 PM
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