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at what poinmt should we start discriminating, especuially against our young job seekers.
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Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:40:03 PM
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Beach, as terrible as your favorite migrant bashing hobby horse Rotherham in the United Kingdom was, I fail to see the relevance of it to Australia in 2016. Are you claiming there is a parallel between them and us? Despite the fact there is no Australian evidence of such systemic child abuse among our migrant communities. In fact the only evidence of systemic child abuse in Australia has been uncovered by a Royal Commission into organisations such as the Catholic Church. The cover up of child abuse in Australia has been at the hands of individuals you might consider conservative, police and church officials.
Is your inference that Rotherham should be used as justification for a ban on migration to Australia. You claim without evidence "Australian governments and the Labor and Greens in particular, have NOT learned anything from the experiences of Rotherham and elsewhere in the UK." When it comes to Australian migration conservative governments have been no less supporters than Labor. What in particular did the conservatives learn from Rotherham that Labor and the Greens did not Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 24 April 2016 7:22:08 AM
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The LNP federal government must have learned something, they threw these grubs out of the country,
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/brothers-convicted-over-the-death-of-police-officer-glenn-mcenallay-have-been-deported-to-tonga/news-story/c008879477ba399a822c51726a4570e4 and this, http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-24/convicted-criminals-have-visas-cancelled/6254120 Not something the NSW 'Watermelon' Greens would be supporting eh, Paul1405? Typical Greens, no empathy for the victims of crime and the law-abiding public. The Greens have lots to say about criminals' 'rights' and they don't like any impediments for criminal gangs, such as the previous Qld LNP government's successful Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Act 2013. Along with Labor the Greens are hell-bent on destroying that Act (VLAD) that easily survived an expensive High Court challenge by Bikies. How does that figure? Labor's and Greens' protester voting demographic again, no doubt. In this case, outlaw motorcycle gangs. These fellows, http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/bikies-flock-north-as-crackdown-reviewed/news-story/fde66b02a17e241a2fbbf09267f53106 Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 25 April 2016 1:24:18 PM
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Birds of a feather,
<Bikies carry out threats and assaults for CFMEU, Assistant Police Commissioner says Outlaw motorcycle gang members have carried out threats and assaults for the construction, forestry, mining and energy union (CFMEU), Victoria's Assistant Police Commissioner has told an inquiry. Stephen Fontana told the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption that police have begun several investigations into allegations of violence, intimidation and debt collection carried out by outlaw bikie gang members for the union. "That group is heavily involved in debt collection and they just go there and stand over people and bypass normal civil process," Assistant Commissioner Fontana said. He said police had been unable to make any arrests because alleged victims had withdrawn their statements in fear of their own safety> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-18/bikies-carry-out-assaults-for-cfmeu,-police-say/5754368 Paul1405, You may be able to assist the forum with advice on CFMEU donations to the Greens and Labor. Then again, you could be 'In de Nile', as the 'Watermelon' Greens Trots so often are. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 25 April 2016 2:23:33 PM
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Beach, as you know I do not open links provided by you, for obvious reasons, they may contain viruses as one has found out to their detriment in the past. As per usual you bounce from one hobby horse of yours to another, from Rotherham in the UK, to VLAD laws in Queensland. Making it hard to pin you down on anything of substance.
As I understand it a review into the VLAD laws was conducted by Justice Alan Wilson, are you inferring Justice Wilson is a friend of bikes? Justice Wilson's review found the laws to be "excessively harsh", particularly in relation to mandatory sentencing and recommended they be replaced by a new "aggravating circumstance" of serious organised crime, which could add extra years to a jail sentence. I believe the Palaszczuk Government has acted correctly in adopting Justice Wilson's recommendations. Naturally this will not satisfy an ultra right desperate such as yourself, who demands draconian laws to control the undesirables, but once gaining power would extend those laws, and introduce new ones, to control all, for the good of society of course. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-04/queensland-vlad-laws-should-be-scrapped-judicial-review-finds/7296778 Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 10:03:17 AM
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*PC approved words where the endless-diversity-Oz-is-being-obliged-to-have is concerned
From the population atlas of brisbane for example and remembering that the Population Census defines children of migrants as Australians, not migrants,
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/brisbane-a-city-of-many-nations-data-shows-20130123-2d7cb.html
Many don't have any issues with migrants. However the majority which includes migrants themselves, strongly object to 'Big Australia' and want a tightening on intakes particularly with sustainability and costs (taxes, loss of quality of life) to the present population in mind.
Secondly, the majority of Australians which includes migrants themselves, strongly object to allowing the 'diversity' tail to swing the immigration policy dog as some governments but particularly Labor are prone to do. That results in the importation of toxic beliefs, traditions and political systems that threaten freedom, safety and quality of life.
Australian governments and the Labor and Greens in particular, have NOT learned anything from the experiences of Rotherham and elsewhere in the UK,
"Rotherham council ignored child abuse by Asian [PC for Pakistani] gangs because of 'misplaced political correctness', report concludes
Misplaced political correctness by Rotherham’s Labour led council combined with a staggering culture of denial allowed more than 1,400 vulnerable girls to be routinely abused by gangs of Asian men, a withering report has concluded.
Children as young as nine were groomed, trafficked and raped by members of the town’s Pakistani community, but a desperation to avoid being labelled as racist meant councillors turned a blind eye to the appalling abuse for 16 years.
A damning report, written by former Victims’ Commissioner, Louise Casey, has laid bare the true extent of the council’s failings and accused those in charge of deliberately trying to cover up scandal and silence whistle-blowers"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11391314/Rotherham-child-sex-abuse-scandal-council-not-fit-for-purpose.html