If it’s alright with mods, I’m here to promote my online survey for my Master's Thesis. The survey is about digital gaming (online, mobile, consoles...)! It contains questions like why do you play, how much, what type of games e.g, as well as questions from positive psychological view. What I mean by it is that we want to see the positive effects of gaming. The survey takes about 15 to 20 mins. I know this is long, but all the questions are well thought through and important. So use your time when filling it! Thanks!

https://www.webropolsurveys.com/S/D5F22C5C1626F81D.par

mkarsikko,
You are joking of course. "Arn't you?"

umm no? :D

Hi mkarsikko,

What he means is that you are unlikely to find gamers on this site.

Most people here are middle to mature age.

Well mkarsikko,

I have done the survey. It was kind of interesting what you are investigating, as I have children who also do games and involved them in the survey (to keep me answering honestly).

Would you like people of any age to answer? eg less than 12 years of age?

I think a lot of older people would enjoy digital games if they gave them a chance. There are some incredibly complex games for the more cerebral player, games which even require pen and paper mathematics and record keeping to master completely and for retired people with time on their hands or those who are immobile or live alone it could be a godsend.
Anyway, I filled out the survey, hope it helps.

Good one, Bugsy : )

On the strength of that, my teenager has bookmarked the survey to do soon.

Will also ask my 30-something gamer daughter to do the same.

I even play on our consoles occasionally - so should probably do the survey too.

There's a great variety of ages when it comes to gaming, so I do believe I'll find some here too :) As I have already, haha. Thanks to all of you who have answered already!

The survey is for gamers who are 18 year old or older, sorry about that :(

And thank you so much for spreading the survey! I'm closing it tomorrow night, so tell them to find time to answer it asap :)

Well, I could do that, but then I'd be guilty of helping you to have a nice easy free ride in life - getting paid to play games whilst sitting on your butt in air-con with your white-collar university education that taxpayers probably paid for, and one where all you did was delegate the work out to others, so no deal.

You're going to be earning how much a year?
How much is OUR TIME worth to you?

I bet you're probably one of these young ones that expects an easy free ride, has everything done for them and never goes out of their way for anyone, unless there's something in it for you, am I right?
Then when you get your degree you'll act all high and mighty and look down on everyone else when you still probably never did a hard days work in your life anyway...

Tell me have you ever worked on a farm or a factory before?
Worked outside labouring in the heat of a summers day?
Did your parents or family ever defend this nation to earn that easy free ride you're getting?
And finally, why don't you just get on the Xbox, Playstation, Steam or Facebook and send a message to all friends?
Do you even have any? Are you even a gamer?
I wonder why you haven't tried this already and therefore question whether you have the intelligence to go to University at all.
Do you have any idea what you are doing?

And why just the positive effects of gaming?
Why not also discuss the negative affects and have a more balanced and unbiased point of view, or don't they teach you that?

Maybe you are better suited to real work, at a pay rate more in line with your skills and intellect.
(Macca's or Woolies maybe?)

On the other hand I will genuinely give you IQ+1 credit for asking, not that it got you anywhere.
If you don't ask then you don't get I suppose...

- But I'm sure all you young ones already know that though.

Armchair, you can rest assured that if mkarsikko's getting an easy free ride, your taxes aren't paying for it. Australian taxes support Australian students in Australian universities, but mkarsikko's in Finland. You've heard of Finland, haven't you? It's one of those countries that recognises the value of education for making its workforce more productive (and subsequently more than paying for itself through the taxation system).

Days there will never be hot (by our standards) and anyway what does it matter whether mkarsikko's done any (low value) manual labour? There's nothing wrong with going straight to the high value work.

I could not find any record of this research, or researcher, on the University of Turku website: http://www.utu.fi

Yes I'm from Finland, and as said, the education there is for free. I won't go to my personal life here, but guess it tells something that for five years I've been working as a cleaner, before starting the free, still very qualified Uni, where only 2 % get in. You can try to guess how much time I used to read and calculate statistics for the exams to get in.

Good to know that my info isn't on the site, that's how amaxing Finland is :)

But yeah, closing the survey by tomorrow morning 8 am, so to those of you silly enough to trust me, please answer the survey asap. As said, it's or anyone whose ever played anything on from mobiles to computers.

*amaxing=amazing :D

And *or=for, sorry bout those.

mkarsikko, it not a matter of trusting you, but of your observing good scientific practice. It is usual to include the contact details of your supervisor on a survey. Just your own contact details are not sufficient. Your work is subject to oversight by the Ethics Committee of your university: https://www.utu.fi/en/research/ethicality/Pages/ethics-committee.aspx

Tom W.

Tom W.,

I agree with you. You are being polite.

I love games, I have Xbox, PS and PC. It's a huge part of my life so I really liked that survey. Can you give us full results?

Aiden,
Lol.. Thanks for getting me up to speed.
I put my foot in it there going off on a rant didn't I?

'Nothing wrong with going straight to the high value work'
I disagree at some level, given that someone is ALWAYS going to have to take out the garbage and clean the toilets.
I don't think anyone has any born right to be above that.

At some level this makes taking out the garbage and cleaning toilets the REAL high-value work.

I understand we need smart people at universities, but someone else has to forego that position to work in a farm or a factory so we can produce things to eat or produce things that we can use.

mkarsikko,
Sorry for being hard on you and its good to know you have put some hard work in to get where you are.
I hope you do well in your chosen field, and sorry I did not end up getting a chance to complete your survey in time.

Armchair,

Yes you put your foot in it. But by doing so you revealed a lot about the assumptions you make and the values you hold.

It doesn't make any difference whether or not the work is something that will always be needed. Work that almost anyone can do is generally low value. The real high value work is the work that enables things to be done that could not otherwise be done.

It's not about born rights, it's about efficiency. It's much better to avoid putting people who are capable of high value work into the situation where they're forced to do low value work, for this is likely to reduce the amount of high value work they will ultimately do, and it reduces the availability of low value work for those people who are incapable of doing high value work.

"I understand we need smart people at universities, but someone else has to forego that position to work in a farm or a factory so we can produce things to eat or produce things that we can use."
Then you don't understand at all. Studying at university isn't merely an alternative to a career in farming or manufacturing; it enables people to farm and manufacture more productively.

You seem to want more Australians to do the sort of work that Indonesians do for $2/hour. Tell me: what do you think Aussies should be paid for that sort of work, and why?