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Crowds Protest Against Asylum Seekers Being Sent Back To Nauru.

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Foxy,

What a cop out.

You choice 1200 dead or a few hundred detained. You simply cannot bring yourself to admit that Tony Abbott was right in spite of the mounting evidence.

Tough border control saves thousands of lives, Bleeding hearts litter the seas with the corpses of women and children.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 14 February 2016 5:18:52 PM
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Hey Shadow Minister,

What do you think Carl Marx would have said about this?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 14 February 2016 6:15:33 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

<<You choice 1200 dead or a few hundred detained.>>

I cannot speak for Foxy, but I do choose the former.

When the choice is between thousands, nay even millions, to die at their own hands against even one person to be tortured by myself or in my name, I unhesitatingly choose the former.

If people are stupid enough to sail the high seas in unworthy boats, then while I may choose to be generous and save them, if for whatever reason I don't, then the least I can do is to allow them to drown and just hope that others will learn from their experience and no longer embark on such dangerous trips.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 14 February 2016 6:39:31 PM
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Dear Banjo,

I would like to quote in part - from Peter Costello's book-
"The Costello Memoirs," written by Peter Costello
with Peter Coleman. He sums things up very well.
The book was published in 2008 and I had the pleasure
of meeting him.

." The political and cultural institutions that
govern our country are absolutely critical to
that attitude of harmony and tolerance.
The reason we have been successful in this country
has been due to an institutional framework that we
have in place that preserves tolerance and protects
order so we are all able to live side by side.
We could not do that without the framework which
guarantees our freedom to enjoy diversity."

Unless we have a
consensus of support about how we will form our
legislature and an agreement to abide by its laws none of us
will be able to enjoy our rights and liberties without
being threatened by others.

"Terrorists and those who support them do not acknowledge the
rights and liberties of others - the right to live without
being maimed, the right to live without being bombed - and
as such they forfeit the right to join in Australian
society."

"It has to be made clear that there is one law we are all
expected to abide by. It's the law enacted by the
Parliament under the Australian Constitution."

"People who can't accept that then they don't accept the
fundamentals of what Australia is and what it stands for.
Our state is a secular state. As such it can protect
the freedom of all religions for worship. Religion
instructs its adherents on faith, morals and conscience.
But there is not a separate stream of law derived from
religious sources that competes with or supplants
Australian law in governing our civil society."

"The source of our law is the democratically elected legislature.
There are countries that apply religious or sharia law -
Saudi Arabia and Iran come to mind. If a person wants to
live under sharia law these are countries where they
might feel at ease - but not Australia."
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 February 2016 7:21:41 PM
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Dear Foxy,

Peter Costello - what a perfect example of a blind leading the blind:

When so-called "religious" nutcases order people around as to what they must and mustn't do in their life in the name of religion, then Peter condemns their behaviour (as he should), but when he does just the same in the name of secular democracy then suddenly it's all so clean.

Give us a break!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 14 February 2016 8:14:26 PM
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Foxy, these people don't need to be in the Hilton to commit rape, its part of their custom, and you want them to bring that garbage with them.
No matter which way you want to twist this, the underlying, indisputable fact is, these people arrived illegally and for the sake of law abiding immigrants, going about applying for residency in the lawful way, they can not be allowed to stay. Full stop!
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 15 February 2016 6:12:00 AM
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