No Foxy, I don't so much think they have children so they can stay in detention, what I am saying is this proves they cant help their own situation, which pretty much proves they would be of little value to our society, and lets face it, we are not exactly in a position to welcome non productive people in, more so now than ever before.

At present we are like a mother pig, with ten tits and a dozen piglets, and your answer is more piglets. Wow!

Of cause those who suggest they are deliberately getting pregnant to gain residency may well be on to something as well, because when you think about it, if you close one door (the boats) they will keep looking for another.

Dear rehctub,

How do you know that they will be of little
value to our society? We haven't given them
a chance. They've so far been held in
appalling conditions in detention about which
there have been quite a few reports. These people
were brought to the mainland for medical treatment
because medical treatment was not available to
them on Nauru. Also their cases are still being
assessed so you're pre-judging them.

Australia has signed an agreement to take in a
certain number of asylum seekers and our Prime
Minister has decided to make a decision on a case
by case basis - so it isn't as clear cut as you
may think.

Of course you can always write to the PM and suggest
that we tear up the agreement that this country signed.
Or we can continue to finance the detention centres
which are far more expensive to maintain then
dealing with these people in a humane way and allowing
them to work in the community and earn their keep and
give their children an education.
The moral choice is yours to make.

Fox,

Both of the major parties have presented detailed, cogent arguments for maintaining the present policy that is saving lives.

Of course the sorry 'asylum seeker' industry, talking especially about the gutter-dwelling lawyers and NGOs that used to extract $millions, $billions, from the Australian taxpayer would be astroturfing like crazy, trying every which way to break the resolve of the Government and the Opposition.

So the new astroturfing talking sheet has on it, 'Start speculative gossip and a rumour that Turnbull is allowing concessions'?

Fat chance, no-one* wants to be accountable ever again for thousands of drownings at sea. Even Rudd has learned that lesson.

*make that no-one except for the grubs who used make their daily bread out of illegal immigrants and would do the same again if they could and don't lose sleep over drownings at sea.

OTB,

Thank you for your opinion.
I can see that you also feel deeply about this issue.

Have a nice day.

Foxy,

"Say it loud. Say it clear,
Refugees are welcome here."

Funnily enough that's exactly what the Germans were saying a few months ago, now they are desperate to stop the boats. Maybe they should hire Abbott.

After seeing Tony Abbott deliver his wet dream joke for Warren Truss yesterday I doubt if any country - apart from China - will touch with a 10 foot pole.