It is disgusting, it is disturbing, but when it comes to private property - government should stay out. The only things illegal on private properties should be those which spill out into the adjoining properties or public areas, causing harm and/or danger to those outside.

Nevertheless, if one rapes on their private property, they should never again be allowed out of it, have a fence with warning signs erected around them and have their electricity, water, gas, roads and other supplies cut off - and if a mob subsequently attacks that property, the owners should enjoy no police protection.

Such dumb stories are little more than distracting intelligent thought, promoting emotional rage in people that feel they need to feel information before information gets them concerned.

Stupid stories introduced by media, I strongly suggest were invented by some media organisation to be introduced by the media to add one more story to a list of many other stupid stories, Neanderthals feel rev-up-raged intelligent for understanding.

Is this an opinion forum website of non innovative rubbish?

mhaze,

The English spelling was legalize and as American English is a repository of early English spellings then those of us who prefer the more English English use the American spelling.

'Program' is a case in point.

Yuyutsu: Re private property, the question is 'whose private property'? Do they want to come onto my private property and rape me there? That was how I read it.

Even if it was their private property, do you really think people should be able to do anything, as long as it's confined to the block? Murder their kids, burn their house down, torture their dogs or horses?

What about the person raped? Is it OK if they are enticed or abducted onto the private property, as long as the rape takes place there?

And your suggestion of confining them to their block.. What if other family members also live there? Are you going to forcibly confine them with the rapist, or alternately, are they going to be removed and made homeless?

Dear Cossomby,

Sorry if I was misunderstood: you should be sovereign on your own property and if someone comes to rape you there, then both yourself and the law should be able to cut them to shreds.

Also, if someone is abducted or even misled to a private property, then surely society should be able to defend itself, doing whatever is needed to save that person and to prevent similar future occurrences.

Now if a property is owned (in the natural sense of the word, not necessarily its legal sense) by several people, then suffice that one of them calls for the state's help, either explicitly or implicitly (on the balance of probabilities) to allow the state to come in and save them. Similarly, if several people live there then the wishes of the other family members should be respected.

The remaining cases are quite rare: assuming that those whom we consider victims are on the property by their own volition and have not requested the state's help (and if they technically cannot then it can be reasonably assumed that they wouldn't do so even if they could), then the state has no right to enter.

Of course, society should ostracise and isolate those who kill their babies or torture their dogs and horses, but the decision to do so must be left up to individuals, rather than the state - otherwise it creates a slippery-slope which would end up with the state dictating every aspect of private life. You and I agree that murder and rape are bad, but if you allow the state to decide what's good and what's bad, then soon enough it would designate even good things as bad and all freedoms will be lost.

As for the fool who burns down their own house, so long as they take sufficient precautions to prevent that fire and its smoke from spreading, it's just their own loss.

Roosh is a snake oil salesman giving false hope to losers who should never be allowed to reproduce anyway, screw his views on women, it's his degenerate concept of masculinity which should see him pilloried.
Return Of Kings is just the complimentary "masculinist" viewpoint to sites like Bustle and Jezebel, it's all horrible end times garbage which should never have gained the amount of influence it has.
What it boils down to is matching society's worst men with it's worst women, the results would speak for themselves.