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Have Australian voters become too conservative?

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What do you think the Australian voter is looking
for in the next election?

My personal opinion is that people want someone
who can end a spate of bad polls and make the
government something other than a bad joke.

Malcolm Turnbull ticks some of the boxes.
He is sound on the economy. He is not gaffe prone.
He is not a plotter or a backstabber. And he is
a clever, aggressive performer in Parliament.

But is that enough?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:16:51 AM
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Fox,

LOL

You are a pistol. If you are not getting some financial consideration for all of that Labor spin you jolly well should be.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:46:12 AM
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It is incredible how some people see things. Why does there have to be a third party lurking in the background. We must see things as they are, there is no conspiracy going on just facts that exist. It must come down to mindset. At least reasonable people can talk about either side of politics without looking under the carpet.
It’s a virtue to be able to see both sides of the coin at the same time.
Turnbull is the man of the moment and rightly so. Currently shacking up in the lodge.
I believe in barracking for any PM that shows respect, confidently handling himself, a statesman, and a gentleman. Qualities of a PM. Why shouldn’t he get the applause of a nation. He is the best PM we have had since Julia Gillard.
It is a pity we have to vote before we see what we are really getting, sometimes that does not work out to expectations. Then it takes action to force change.
Victorian new home building starts are currently experiencing a boom, and that may be the start of something big.
The symptoms of shell shock may be on the decline, with a more progressive time ahead.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 24 January 2016 12:27:11 PM
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OTB,

Joseph Addison, English essayist, poet and
dramatist once stated:

"A man must be both stupid and uncharitable who
believes there is no virtue or truth but on
his own side."
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 24 January 2016 12:32:15 PM
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Dear 579,

Thank You for putting things into their
proper perspective.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 24 January 2016 12:34:48 PM
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Heh, heh, 579 has form too.

Like a recording of Labor talking points, set on continuous loop and immersed 'in de Nile' as so many leftists are.

Again, 579 if you're not getting paid for it you are wasting a good part of your life.

When does this get down to 'Abbott's fault', 'Abbott's fault'? Just cut to the punch line.

But wait a bit, the path is already set in the OP, " people want someone who can end a spate of bad polls".

Hiding from talking policies and the outcomes of 'that' Unions Royal Commission?
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 24 January 2016 12:54:00 PM
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Have Australian voters become too conservative?

Come in, spinner. LOL
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 24 January 2016 1:01:58 PM
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There is a minority of Conservative voters out there mostly uninformed, or radical. You can find racism flourishing amongst some, not all. OTB should not continually keep bringing up Abbott, allow the man some peace after all he has paid the price.
Turnbull is the potential savior of AU at least he is having a go.
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull wants to convince some of the world’s biggest investors of the benefits of pumping dollars into Australia in a private, unprecedented meeting.
Senior ministers, bureaucrats and regulators will meet 20 big-name investment groups such as Blackrock and Capital Group to sell the prospects of Australian innovation, The Australian Financial Review reports.
Mr Turnbull will meet international investors next Friday, as will Reserve Bank governor Glenn Stevens, Treasury secretary John Fraser, BHP Billiton chief executive Andrew Mackenzie, among others.
The Coalition's 10 percentage point lead over Labor in the two-party preferred vote has not changed, according to the poll of 3116 people conducted on January 21, with the same 55-45 result as the last ReachTEL poll conducted on November 26 last year.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 24 January 2016 2:35:20 PM
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If the so called progressives can't see the pigs trough they have created already then there is not a lot of hope for this nation.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 24 January 2016 2:51:18 PM
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Foxy,

If you mean intolerant of socialist incompetence, then yes.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 24 January 2016 3:38:12 PM
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Foxy>> Have Australian voters become too conservative?<<

or........Did Rudd Gillard Rudd disenfranchise the party faithful.......either way Foxy dear, Labor isn’t going anywhere with Shortman....The man who's opinion is everyone’s except his own. For Jehovas sake,all his ideas come from the populist daily papers. As example, the papers announce the year of recognizing spousal abuse......Bill announces 5 days a year spousal abuse leave. Add this to Shorten’s other major policy announcements thus far as leader and we have a gay marriage policy and a vote for 16 year olds policy and a no beating wife and husbands policy......ruling our nation from the gay matrimonial bed the cradle and the hospital bed.............lolololol
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 24 January 2016 4:44:06 PM
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sonofgloin,

True and well put.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 24 January 2016 5:30:24 PM
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No party today holds a mortgage on a particular class
of worker any more.

Our jobs no longer define how we vote:

http://abc.net.au/news/2015-07/01/lewis-our-jobs-no-longer-define-how-we-vote/65855894
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 24 January 2016 6:05:30 PM
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My apologies for the typo in my previous post.
I shall try again:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07/01/lewis-our-jobs-no-longer-define-how-we-vote/6585894
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 24 January 2016 6:42:39 PM
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Hi Foxy, I believe the majority of Australian voters have become LESS conservative over the years. Since the Churches have less of a stranglehold on the way people think anymore, voters are more likely to think for themselves and not blindly follow one political party that they and their parents have followed for years.

Less conservative Liberal politicians like Malcolm Turnbull have become popular because they are not so rigidly following the conservative line.
Some old-fashioned conservative voters might not like this state of affairs but I think it is a sign that Australia is finally growing up and leaving the stuffy British form of politics behind.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 24 January 2016 8:45:01 PM
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Dear Suse,

I think that I'd agree with you.

Though our former Prime Minister insisted from
the start that there would be no wrecking or
undermining - he's kept on crossing the line
to vindictiveness. As a result although he
might have his hard-core supporters he has
certainly lost the support of the
essential community that even Kevin Rudd had
when he was deposed. So writes Barrie Cassidy.

Even John Howard has told Mr Abbott to stop
criticising the New Prime Minister.

It seems that Tony Abbott has destroyed the trust
and the "conservative advantage" for his party:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-27/dunlop-abbott-has-destroyed-the-conservative-advantage/6728580
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 January 2016 8:58:00 AM
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Sure enough it always ends up with Fox, 'It's Abbott, Abbott, Abbott!'

and

Anglophobe Suseonline 'dissing' at least one of her three pet hatreds, this time Australia's political inheritance from the UK.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 25 January 2016 9:23:53 AM
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Sure enough it always ends up with OTB,
it's the "Women, women, women, women!"
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 January 2016 10:10:30 AM
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Foxy gets crazier with every post. 'Have Australian voters become too conservative?'. How unaware can you be? Australians have moved further to the left than ever. The adoration of the Leftist Turnbull is proof of that. Unfortunately for the smarmy, do-nothing Turnbull, it is the likes of Foxy and other Marxists who like him, but who will find it impossible to vote for for the Liberal candidate (who is possibly a conservative) in their electorate to help their Left darling remain Prime Minister - a post he achieved by stealth and bastardry. When Left extremists like like Foxy start touting for ANY leader of the Coalition, we know that lunacy is really off the leash. She is also so wrapped up in herself, that she hasn't noticed that many Coalition voters are so disgusted with Turnbull - including people like John Stone and James Allan, and thousands of unknown Liberal voters will be turning their backs on the coalition at the next election, thanks to a self-serving renegade who is out to remove choice from Australian electors.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 25 January 2016 10:32:26 AM
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Lets look at the facts before calling posters
you don't know names - simply because
their views don't agree with your blinkered
narrow-minded ones. You may be in denial - the
Liberal Party wasn't.

Tony Abbott was a disaster hence he was removed by his
own party. Some of his biggest clangers listed on
the web are:

1) The re-introduction of knights and dames.
2) The politically disastrous 2014 budget that
contained so many broken promises.
3) The insistence on keeping Joe Hockey as Treasurer.
4) Allowing the Bronwyn Bishop scandal to run on for
18 days.
5) The handling of the same sex marriage issue.

Anyone of any intelligence who would have been a
member of the Parliamentary Liberal Party at that time
would also have voted for Malcolm Turnbull.

Mr Turnbull has all the ingredients to inspire and
lead the country in the right direction. Here's hoping
that he shall be allowed to do precisely that.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 January 2016 10:58:52 AM
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"No party today holds a mortgage on a particular class
of worker any more. Our jobs no longer define how we vote:"

Well you're sure right there Foxy. However the left hold a stranglehold on how the non working bludger vote. Every election they buy a few more bludgers, & we get a pile of extra welfare we have to find.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 25 January 2016 11:38:07 AM
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ttbn is still sobbing over Tony's demise. Get over it and move on.

As Foxy said, he was thrown out by his own party, and that same party chose Turnbull to lead. So are the majority of the Liberal party now 'leftists, marxists, or whatever other mad label you want to give them? Or is it simply that your personal idol Pollie Abbott was deposed as he should have been and you remain in despair?

I will keep your little rant post above and play it back to you when Turnbull wins the next election...
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 25 January 2016 11:52:18 AM
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ttbn,

A couple of corrections.

I'm not a Marxist.

I have voted Liberal many times in my electorate.
I vote for policies, that make sense - and for
hard workers in my electorate.

As for Mr Turnbull - he's a hard worker.
His background is impressive:

http://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/meet-malcolm/biography

You need to do a bit more research before posting -
other wise you come across as not only narrow-minded
but stupid as well.

Dear Hassie,

What about bludgers who have loop-holes
and get away with not paying their share of taxes?
You don't hear many complaints about them from
the Coalition only about the poor.
Interesting eh?
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 January 2016 11:53:17 AM
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Conservatives can take heart that in tough times usually caused through self indulgent regressives people wake up. In Holland Geert Wilders is now the most popular pollie. The Europeans have certainly had to learn the hard way.
Posted by runner, Monday, 25 January 2016 12:40:46 PM
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Dear runner,

And yet Europeans are still taking people in.
That speaks volumes about their ethics and
morality, and compassion.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 January 2016 1:24:36 PM
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Foxy,

You would know all about narrow-mindeness and stupidity, Ms. Never Wrong. Your waffle would be best left for your nearest and dearest who are undoubtedly as ignorant and arrogant as you are. You and your mate, suseonline, are notorious ninnies, well past your use by dates.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 25 January 2016 1:34:51 PM
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Yep Foxy calls allowing illegals who hate her way of life 'compassionate' I call it stupid. The left are at best deceitful in using the 'compassionate'card. Its usually at the expense of others and using tax payers money.
Posted by runner, Monday, 25 January 2016 2:39:47 PM
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Dear ttbn, and runner,

Gotcha!

I'll take those comments as a compliment.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 January 2016 2:44:06 PM
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Lol Foxy :)
"Notorious Ninnies' ?

I rather like that actually...it makes ttbn look even more upset about Abbott's demise than I first thought. He is now getting hysterical!
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 25 January 2016 2:50:24 PM
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Foxy,

I know you are pretty thick, but taking insults as compliments? Thick and sick.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 10:51:40 AM
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Dear ttbn,

Coming from someone like you and insult is
a compliment. It means that I'm getting to
you old chap! There, there!
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 10:54:46 AM
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Foxy,

If you mean getting to me as in 'you are the most irritating bimbo on OLO', then yes, you get to me. If you get satisfaction from that, you are even crankier than I thought. I'll bet you never draw breath when you lecture people in in you own circle, either. On an and on and on: all mouth and no knowledge. If you keep it up long enough, you believe, people will accept your greath 'truths'. You are the sort of person people cross the street to avoid - which is what I intend to do from now on.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 10:39:27 AM
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