Hi Suse,

I wouldn't worry if I were you, it's all a circus, and there are obviously plenty of people out there with low IQs. Trump might carry the Iowa primary, and that will really put the wind up the Republicans who will scramble to get behind one single candidate; it could be quite a bloodbath, but they surely have the sense to realise that you have to capture the Centre, not just the populist fringe. My bet is on Rubio trumping Trump in a couple of months.

Then it could shape up to be a battle between Clinton and Rubio: where else can supporters of Bernie Sanders go if she starts getting a clear upper hand ?

So my money is on a Clinton vs. Rubio contest in November. Rubio will have to reach out to women, and go slightly left, and Clinton will have to reach out to Hispanics, and go slightly right.

This is better than chess !

Joe

Suze,

I reckon you have the first case of political bulimia. You must lose a lot of meals from seeing politicians you don't like.

I would suggest opening your mind to concepts other than those pushed by left whinge parties, especially since Labor is faring so badly.

Suzeonline and Loudmouth,

You do realise that the sneering mockery people like you indulge in adds to Trump's appeal. This is about class warfare, not IQ. This blog post explains it very well, and I recommend the whole thing.

"Attempts by people in the wage class to mount any kind of effective challenge to the changes that have gutted their economic prospects and consigned them to a third-rate future have done very little so far..."

"There’s a further barrier, though, and that’s the response of the salary class across the board—left, right, middle, you name it—to any attempt by the wage class to bring up the issues that matter to it. On the rare occasions when this happens in the public sphere, the spokespeople of the wage class get shouted down with a double helping of the sneering mockery I discussed toward the beginning of this post. The same thing happens on a different scale on those occasions when the same thing happens in private. If you doubt this—and you probably do, if you belong to the salary class—try this experiment: get a bunch of your salary class friends together in some casual context and get them talking about ordinary American working guys. What you’ll hear will range from crude caricatures and one-dimensional stereotypes right on up to bona fide hate speech. People in the wage class are aware of this; they’ve heard it all; they’ve been called stupid, ignorant, etc., ad nauseam for failing to agree with whatever bit of self-serving dogma some representative of the salary class tried to push on them."

"And that, dear reader, is where Donald Trump comes in."

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"The man is brilliant. I mean that without the smallest trace of mockery. He’s figured out that the most effective way to get the wage class to rally to his banner is to get himself attacked, with the usual sort of shrill mockery, by the salary class. The man’s worth several billion dollars—do you really think he can’t afford to get the kind of hairstyle that the salary class finds acceptable? Of course he can; he’s deliberately chosen otherwise, because he knows that every time some privileged buffoon in the media or on the internet trots out another round of insults directed at his failure to conform to salary class ideas of fashion, another hundred thousand wage class voters recall the endless sneering putdowns they’ve experienced from the salary class and think, “Trump’s one of us.”

"Whether he wins or loses, that pushback is going to be a defining force in American politics for decades to come. Nor is a Trump candidacy anything approaching the worst form that could take. If Trump gets defeated, especially if it’s done by obviously dishonest means, the next leader to take up the cause of the wage class could very well be fond of armbands or, for that matter, of roadside bombs. Once the politics of resentment come into the open, anything can happen—and this is particularly true, it probably needs to be said, when the resentment in question is richly justified by the behavior of many of those against whom it’s directed."

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/donald-trump-and-politics-of-resentment.html

Dear Divergence,

The article you referred to was fascinating - the four classes, investment, salary, wage and welfare. However, if Trump is elected he will appoint his advisers from the investment and salaried classes and serve their interests. He will be clever enough to convince the wage classes that he is serving their interests and so get re-elected.

Sarah Palin endorsing Donald Trump for the Republican nomination on US time January 19, Sarah Palin's long hyperactive comical rhyming address to an applauding audience, while Donald Trump stood close by, wearing several characteristic smiles, I suggest, allows democracy to look what democracy really is when looked at by (what I call myself one of) thinking people.

When 18th century land owners and or tax payers were voting politicians into office, there may have been limited democracies. I have read a Wikipedia reading on American War of Independence, about certain currency figure tax payers and land owners being the only people allowed to vote for politicians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Shilling_Freeholders

https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/government-and-civics/essays/winning-vote-history-voting-rights

That within a reading, permitting common working class voting rights turned democracy into a joke.

Wealth factor of candidates could buy voting pledges. Religious organisations could convince congregations to vote for politicians of the same faith.

Tony Abbott; Malcolm Turnbull and Mike Baird stating their Catholics, somewhat has Catholics voting for those political parties in future elections.

The: keenest; by believing in democracy, stupidest; most party whistle blowing, colourful balloon going; most excited about democracy are choosing running candidates for political parties nationwide presidential elections.
George W. Bush's last year in office, had David Letterman showing on each night of Letterman's programs, a quick segment, George W. Bush's speech slip ups. Each mistake was new. What allows second term lame duck bad speeches to be really funny is that people believe democracy is real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKmRDBUeBWk

New York around 1870 mayor Boss Tweed, poses an example of real democracies left to govern.

The only reason I can see Tony Abbott coming back as prime minister is that Tony Abbott creates funnier news print cartoons. Once more, ridiculing democracy.

One more example of attracting people's attention for a future sting “we know you know too much so we won't mess you around” messing you around sting. Threatening people to keep quite with Jesus story reminders.

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Realities of life, democracy or not:
http://www.evolutionary-metaphysics.net/rise_of_democracy.html

stop reading at: “feudal society” or continue.