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Vote for Trump.

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Nothing gets the left whingers in a froth more than an outspoken conservative, and with Trump it is even worse in that Trump is defying all expectations and soaring ahead in the polls.

In a previous thread, I put my view as to why Trump was so popular, and got the a similar reaction. For those that believe that Trump's support will melt away if he gets nominated, perhaps reading the Essential poll in Aus which shows that the greatest support for Trump in Aus is from the Labor voters.

Similarly Bernie Sanders is threatening Clinton on the far left, and while I believe that Clinton would muster the middle ground to beat Trump, I think that Sanders has too much extremist baggage to beat Trump.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 3:03:10 PM
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Hasbeen; I confirm that you have a worst enemy. Your own worst enemy is yourself for refusing to see what is going to inevitably happen.
I also confirm that if the Western world keeps on the same course it will only be a matter of time before it self implodes.

https://www.oxfam.org/sites/www.oxfam.org/files/file_attachments/bp210-economy-one-percent-tax-havens-180116-summ-en_0.pdf
Enjoy.
Posted by Robert LePage, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 3:16:41 PM
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Hi Robert,

Being a bit partial to conspiracy theories, I wouldn't mind betting that Hillary Clinton is secretly funding the campaigns of BOTH Sanders on the Left and trump on the Right, in order to claim the middle ground and pushing its boundaries towards both of them.

Corbyn is an interesting phenomenon, isn't he ? He represents the last gasp of the out-of-time old Left in Britain. If he lasts until the next election (in 2020 ?), the Labour Party will be utterly devastated until 2030. But pressure may build up across the Labour Party to messily dump him and salvage what it can before the next election.

Political rule # 1: It's the centre, stupid.

I hope this helps.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 21 January 2016 8:29:39 AM
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Trump is no conservative. He's got more in common with the Monster Raving Loonies. Let's just remember some of the things this guy has said:

About Mexicans:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. ... And some, I assume, are good people."

About blacks and jews:
"Laziness is a trait in the blacks. ... Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day."

About fellow Republican and Vietnam veteran John McCain:
"He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured, OK, I hate to tell you."

About his daughter:
"I don’t think Ivanka would do that [pose for Playboy], although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her."

He's amusing in a village idiot sort of way, but if he wins his policies will presumably be as racist and bonkers as everything he says. That does not bode well. Remember what happened last time a comical, lunatic racist with a silly haircut got his hands on a sizeable military?

The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend, and just because something upsets lefties that doesn't automatically make it a good idea. Fascism upsets lefties too, and you don't think it's a good idea do you?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 21 January 2016 9:06:39 AM
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Toni Lavis,

You and Loudmouth persist in seeing this as a conventional election. Here are some of the poll results for the candidates.

http://www.politico.com/polls/#.VqAXLKO4aUk

Here are the Congressional job approval ratings:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

The American people are overwhelmingly fed up with their political establishment, which includes both major parties, and with good reason (see my previous post). Trump supporters don't care if their chosen candidate is rude about illegal immigrants, who are criminals by definition. I think that Trump was a fool to say rude things about blacks, though, unless he was joking and deliberately quoted out of context. He just needs to campaign on "Black jobs matter", and he might get quite a few votes

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/how-donald-trump-defeats-hillary-clinton-217868
Posted by Divergence, Thursday, 21 January 2016 9:39:01 AM
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Hi Divergence,

Trump may seem like a fool to say such rude things about Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, women - the sorts of things that appal most of us. He's enjoying himself. But who do people turn to when he affronts them like that ? Back towards Clinton, and of course towards the gaggle of Republican aspirants - towards the middle. And Sanders will do a Corbyn and drive people from the Left towards the middle. Tell me that's not some sort of conspiracy on Clinton's part.

Just kidding :)

As for 'a conventional election', I can't recall any US presidential election being 'conventional', not that I've paid attention to all of them. But even going back to the Kennedy-Nixon tussle, the dirty tricks on both sides, and the close result, suggest that it wasn't all cut and dried - i.e, conventional.

I love a good circus !

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 21 January 2016 9:53:52 AM
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