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Posted by phanto, Friday, 15 January 2016 10:33:16 AM
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Seriously, phanto. The amateur psychoanalyses are becoming really tiresome. You have no idea why people do what they do and nor is a simple post enough information to be suggestive of any particular motivation.
It’s a win-win tactic for you. If someone leaves without a word, you get to look like you sent them packing. If they continue to post, then you get to make it look like they’re experiencing some sort of defensiveness or doubt with regards to their actions or their opinions. A perfect example: “...there is no need to defend yourself if you are not being nasty.” (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7136#218894) Such a comment leaves someone with their hands tied. They’re damned if they do and they’re damned if they don’t. If they respond with nothing, then you get to look like you were onto something. If they reject your claim, then apparently they have a guilty conscience. It’s win-win. Let me guess. If I felt secure in my belief of this, then I wouldn’t have felt compelled to make the point? Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 15 January 2016 11:24:23 AM
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AJ Philips
I am not psychoanalysing their behaviour I am just analysing it based on the facts that are there for all to see. Psychoanalysis is something different altogether. “You have no idea why people do what they do” You seem to have an idea why I do what I do so why wouldn’t I have an idea why others do what they do? Are you the only one with an opinion? “nor is a simple post enough information to be suggestive of any particular motivation.” Of course it is. For example I have a fair idea why you have come out of the woodwork to make this particular post. “It’s a win-win...them packing.” What is to win? If I am here just to win then don’t engage with me and then I cannot win. Is that why you come here just to win? “They’re damned if they do and they’re damned if they don’t.” Who is doing all this damming? If it is me then why would anyone be afraid of me? I have no power over them? They can be as nasty as they like or defend themselves for hundreds of posts – there is nothing I can do about that. “Let me guess. If I felt secure in my belief of this, then I wouldn’t have felt compelled to make the point?” Or else you might have some unresolved grievance with me and you want to hide behind this thread as a way of trying to attack me. Posted by phanto, Friday, 15 January 2016 12:01:41 PM
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AJ Phillips, I feel your pain !
Cheers, Suse :) Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 15 January 2016 12:12:01 PM
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Suseonline and Fox openly admit to trolling phanto. It is an offensive, exasperating ploy that both of these long-term posters who so often dominate threads employ often to divert threads that are not going down the way they want.
It is not unexpected nor unreasonable that another poster, phanto in this case, might expect better and take both to task for that. He sees the issue at hand and the comments made by himself and other posters as serious and deserving of proper discussion. BTT Sport at an elite level required tremendous dedication. Players train hard for a short earning life. The punishment handed out to Gayle - the demand for a humiliating public apology and the fines - will have a lasting effect on his earning form sponsorships as well and his playing and representational future inside and outside of his sport. It is likely for example that the shadow now over Gayle could even prevent him from volunteering to help troubled kids in schools, as many sportspeople do. How can this great wrong to a player happen in the first place? I have already posted links showing that there is no similar reaction and obviously no call for apology or punishment where a reporter from Koch's Sunrise program rudely interrupted and made a heavy, unwelcome pass at a man on a beach. It isn't just the double standard advantaging women and disadvantaging men that always applies. There is a dreadful, all-pervasive and systemic political correctness that limits free speech in Australia and YES, it is also apparent in the ABC as recent events show (NBN), although Ray Martin couldn't find any (and wasn't expected to). Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 15 January 2016 5:32:43 PM
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I have no idea why you do what you do, phanto.
<<You seem to have an idea why I do what I do so why wouldn’t I have an idea why others do what they do?>> I simply pointed out what it is that you are doing. Why do it, or if you’re even conscious of it, is another matter. <<Of course [a simple post would be enough information to be suggestive of any particular motivation]. For example I have a fair idea why you have come out of the woodwork to make this particular post.>> Please, do tell. <<What is to win?>> There doesn’t have to be a prize. It’s a figure of speech. <<Is that why you come here just to win?>> No, my main reason is to discredit nonsense and hold it up to the light for everyone else to see. <<Who is doing all this damming?>> No-one. You need to learn what a figure of speech is. <<Or else you might have some unresolved grievance with me and you want to hide behind this thread as a way of trying to attack me.>> I’m sorry if you feel attacked. I have no idea why I would have an unresolved grievance with you. The amateur psychology does you no favours. Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 15 January 2016 6:19:23 PM
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There is no need to be sarcastic either if you are truly at peace with your decision.