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What was Cronulla?

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Aiden>>Take another look at those alleged "left leanings" of Turnbull:
CO2 emissions.... Very little meaningful action yet; certainly much less than Labor.<<

In February 2009, as Opposition Leader, Turnbull said:
“…certainly we should cut our emissions by more than what Mr Rudd has proposed and I have set out how we can do that.”

Aiden>>fawning over China.........WTF are you on about?<<

In 2011, Turnbull gave two speeches on the rise of Communist China. One in October, at the London School of Economics (which was founded by the far-left,Labor-aligned Fabian Society), and one in November, in Melbourne.
Turnbull, as Opposition Leader, equated Australia’s relationship with the United States to our relationship with Communist China, saying both are “allies”. He was denounced by Kevin Rudd, who explained that China is not an ally, a term with specific treaty implications:
Turnbull would later, as Prime Minister, cite the late Chinese Communist dictator, revolutionary and mass murderer Mao Zedong as an inspiration.

Aiden>>restrictive water policy for farmers....... because Australia's rainfall is limited!<<

In January 2007 Turnbull was appointed Environment Minister. Using global warming as his justification, he immediately began attacking farmers’ water allocations, announcing his plans for compulsory water “buy-backs” from “inefficient” farms. He was subsequently denounced by both the Victorian National Party and Victorian Labor Premier Steve Bracks, who wanted compulsory water buy-backs completely ruled out
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 5:49:15 PM
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Aiden>> soft anti terrorist rhetoric.... which all the experts say is far more effective at stopping terrorism than Abbott's antagonistic hard rhetoric.<<

Malcolm Turnbull, went soft on the anti-terror rhetoric. So soft, in fact, that he was outflanked by Bill Shorten, who compared those who brainwashed the boy to paedophiles.I take it these experts are Europeans.......yeah that works......lolololololol

Aiden>> defended Bill Hensons child porn....... Or more accurately he defended Bill Henson's photographs (which weren't sexually explicit and didn't harm children) from accusations that they were child porn.<<

In May 2008, following complaints from the public, NSW Police raided a so-called “art exhibition” in the Sydney suburb of Paddington, and confiscated about 20 photographs of naked children. The so-called “artist” responsible for the photos is Bill Henson, a well-known photographer. It was later discovered that Henson had travelled to primary schools to hunt down potential “models” for his “art”.
http://melindatankardreist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/henson-two-pics.jpg

Aiden>>supports increasing foreign aid....... from its current very low level.<<
Turnbull supports sending our borrowed money to the Fabians in Brussels......but he now wants to take from our pensioners.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 5:49:24 PM
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Hi Jay,
I will bend to your point of view on the French regional elections. As an interested outsider I find it hard at the best of times to understand French politics. I'm sure even the French don't completely understand their brand of politics.
Europe is the front line in the struggle between Western first world democracies like France, Germany etc and the refugee crises created in the Middle East. If the extreme right was to prevail, then I think civil war in Europe would be a distinct possibility, a situation that would play into the hands of terrorists organisations like ISIS. The Europeans would be doing their job for them.
To avid a complete catastrophe, very much depends on how strong the moderates are at keeping control in Europe, along with a lot of input from both the Americans and Russians. Firstly, with the realisation war dosn't work, they need to find a political solution in the Middle East, which seems a long way off, and then tackle the refugee crises itself. If a peace, along with stability and some degree of prosperity for all can be achieved in the ME, then radical organisations like ISIS would simply fade away. If Trump was to win in the US, it would have disastrous consequences for the whole world on this. What is needs is a level headed response, not crazy knee jerk reactions based on extreme political philosophies.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 5:04:06 AM
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No, Europe is not "the front line in the struggle between Western first world democracies like France, Germany etc and the refugee crises created in the Middle East."

The struggle is with the determined march of Islam seeking to throw the world back to a global pre-mediaeval caliphate. Ask them - they're not slow to broadcast precisely what they mean.

And nothing could be a greater defeat for democracy than if adroit gaming of the electoral system manages to deprive the French people of what they are choosing with their votes - a voice for rejecting piecemeal surrender via appeasement.

A poser for the dog-whistlers: are the above observations left ideology or right ideology?
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 7:25:23 AM
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Here's a question posed from 10 years further on and 2500 miles further west. Do the Moslems now control the Cronulla beach and are those who choose what to wear there still subject to Moslem harassment? If not, maybe carrying the backlash into their heartland back then did some lasting good.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 7:35:48 AM
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Julian, the backlash never entered their heartland, that's a myth, if a gang of White boys tried anything in Blacktown they'd be carried on stretchers and in body bags. It was never about Islam, it was about identity and ethnicity, many of the marauders coming in to Sutherland were of nominally Christian heritage.

Paul 1405. As racists at some point we have to ask whether there's just something fundamentally wrong with Germanic/Nordic people, as Nietzsche suggested all those years ago; they cannot seem to help themselves when it comes causing chaos across Europe.
Yeah war is coming to Europe, it's a certainty because every time there's been a massive population shift or population explosion on the continent the whole region has been plunged into conflict. Remember Mr Hitler and his obsession with Lebensraum? What's never mentioned is that one of the causes of WW2 was the massive increase in Germany's population from the 1870's on.
Population decline leads to weak nations, leads to invasion by more fecund and aggressive tribes which leads to war.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 3:43:59 PM
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