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ttbn,
I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Bazz: do you have any evidence that Gillian Triggs "does indeed prefer Saudi Arabia to us in the HR stakes"?

The closest I've found so far is where the SMH quotes her as saying: "Gone are the days when we could say, 'How dare Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Libya criticise Australia's human rights record". But that doesn't mean she actually prefers Saudi.

I don't always agree with Gillian Triggs on immigration (I supported Swap The Boats) but there's nothing wrong with taking a strict legal position on the issue, and considering she's from a Law background, it's hardly surprising that she did. Her position is certainly better than the diablical policy of the Abbott government.

And do you really think refugees shouldn't be compensated for crimes committed against them in Australian detention centres.
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 6:47:29 PM
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Aiden: And do you really think refugees shouldn't be compensated for crimes committed against them in Australian detention centres.

Fair enough, but those Refugees who damage the Detention Centre facilities should also be charges & hit with a bill for the repairs.

Australian Detention Centres are like Hiltons compared to anything the UN provides Refugees. That's why I say the Refugee Centres should be under the jurisdiction of the UN not Australia. Then let them complain. Australia pays into the UN Fund for Refugees. It's not Australia's problem until they are granted a Visa to enter Australia.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 8:01:43 PM
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Aidan,

What she said certainly implies that we are as bad as Saudi Arabia. 'Nuance' applies here. You you are too desperate to 'win', Aidan if you are going to split hairs all the time. It's good to see that you at least do not question the fact of her being a proven LIAR and a barking mad Lefty who will pull Malcolm's and the Coalition 'New Labor's' strings.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 10:48:26 AM
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ttbn,
"What she said certainly implies that we are as bad as Saudi Arabia."
No, what she said merely prompted those who already hated her to infer that she things we are as bad as Saudi Arabia. But no unbiased person who knows about Saudi Arabia could reasonably reach that conclusion.

And hypothetically if she had implied that we are as bad as Saudi Arabia, that doesn't mean she "does indeed prefer Saudi Arabia to us in the HR stakes". So it was an outright lie on your part.

"It's good to see that you at least do not question the fact of her being a proven LIAR and a barking mad Lefty who will pull Malcolm's and the Coalition 'New Labor's' strings."
I don't know enough about the claim to pass judgement on the LIAR claim – so far I only have your word that she said it, and that it was untrue.

But the current immigration detention policy is so evil that I wish she would hurry up and pull Malcolm's strings if she can.
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 11:28:39 AM
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Aidian: But the current immigration detention policy is so evil that I wish she would hurry up and pull Malcolm's strings if she can.

So... let's just hand the Detention Centres over to the rightful caretaker. The U.N. As I said before, it's not Australia's job to look after these people. That's the job of the U.N. Australia's Detention Centres are 100 times better than anything the U.N. has ever provided to refugees. They would be getting a bargain. Take the cost of the facilities off the Aid Budget too. Win-Win for Australia & the U.N.

Hey poirot, any chance of answering any of those questions you owe me. Maybe you could answer them too JOM or ArJ whichever.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 12:01:52 PM
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Hey Jayb, computers need the right format for questions !
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 12:33:03 PM
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