david f

"I see nothing wrong in being sexually promiscuous before marriage. I think it is good for young people to experiment sexually."

No problems with VD?

You say calling a foetus an unborn child is an emotive and inaccurate term, then your knowledge is very defective for a foetus is, by definition the child as it exists from the second month till birth.

Only a fool would say that as a woman goes into labour that what is about to enter the world is not an unborn child.

Dear Is Mise,

One of the benefits of a good sex education is the knowledge of how to lessen the chance of getting VD. A baby is a baby after it is born. Until its birth it is a foetus. I don’t know why it should be so hard to understand that. Calling a foetus an unborn child remains an emotive description equal to referring to all living people as undead humans.

Wilfred Owen who was killed in action a week before the end of WW1 wrote the following:

Parable of the Old Man and the Young

So Abram rose, and clave the wood, and went,
And took the fire with him, and a knife.
And as they sojourned both of them together,
Isaac the first-born spake and said, My Father,
Behold the preparations, fire and iron,
But where the lamb for this burnt-offering?
Then Abram bound the youth with belts and straps,
and builded parapets and trenches there,
And stretchèd forth the knife to slay his son.
When lo! an angel called him out of heaven,
Saying, Lay not thy hand upon the lad,
Neither do anything to him. Behold,
A ram, caught in a thicket by its horns;
Offer the Ram of Pride instead of him.
But the old man would not so, but slew his son,
And half the seed of Europe, one by one.

He took the binding of Isaac as a metaphor for old men sending young men out to die in a senseless war.

I think of the senseless murder of an old man, Curtis Cheng, by teenage Islamic terrorist Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar.

Probably Jabar was a virgin as a result of the pathological Islamic horror of non-marital sex except in Islamic heaven. Perhaps if the joy of sex had been encouraged and Jabar had experienced those joys he would not have been so willing to murder and leave this life. That may be true of many religious fanatics. They might not be so fanatical if they had experienced sex and were looking forward to more.

david f,
Saying a fetus isn't an unborn child is like saying Sydney Harbour isn't an unglaciated fjord. That a fjord must be formed by glacial activity (otherwise it's a ria) is a technicality of the english language rather than a feature of coastal landscapes.

And have you noticed the irony here? While complaining about the technicalities of what a fetus is, you claim it to be something that it certainly isn't (for if it's definitely a fetus than it's no longer an embryo). And nor is it part of a woman's body (despite being utterly dependent on that woman's body).

As for Abraham, it's only because of God that he had a son in the first place, and he believed that God could raise the dead — and would have to do so to keep His promise.

Dear Aidan,

You are free to call a foetus whatever you wish.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus

“This article is about the stage of human development. For other species, see Fetus (biology). ... In human development, a fetus (plural "fetuses"), also spelled foetus, is a prenatal human between its embryonic state and its birth. The fetal stage of development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization. In biological terms, however, prenatal development is a continuum, with no clear defining feature distinguishing an embryo from a fetus. The use of the term "fetus" generally implies that an embryo has developed to the point of being recognizable as a human; this is the point usually taken to be the ninth week after fertilization. A fetus is also characterized by the presence of all the major body organs, though they will not yet be fully developed and functional and some not yet situated in their final anatomical location.”

A natural growth in a woman’s body is part of that body until it leaves that body. Denying that it is part of her body is denying her the right to have a say in its future – her right to decide whether she wants to let it go to term or have an abortion. That is possibly what you want.

The story of Abraham and Isaac is mythology. Like the Greek myths it is a story told by people who lived long ago. It tells us about what those people believed. It is not an incident that really happened.

David, What is your angst if the story is a myth?

"The story of Abraham and Isaac is mythology. Like the Greek myths it is a story told by people who lived long ago. It tells us about what those people believed. It is not an incident that really happened."

You show a lot of anger toward your claim the threat to Isaac never happened, while condoning the destruction of over 2,000,000 unborn potential youth in Australia which has happened.

Australian schools has sex education yet VD is rife in promiscuous teenagers.

David,
I thought you ought to look at what really happens between Jews and Christians in this story. http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/312104/holocaust-survivor-bankrolls-rescue-of-2-000-isis-victims/#ixzz3gRUR7JG8