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The Paris atrocities are a display of faith

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//The fact is he did not resurrect himself.//

You're nearly there, dude

//There have been many classified as clinically dead by doctors that have come back to life.//

Well that's nice. How many of those many have been crucified for three days and mortally wounded with the Spear of Longinus? I'm guessing none. If you follow the folklore, a mere scratch from the Spear of Longinus can spell death.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 30 November 2015 12:22:00 AM
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Toni,

"How many of those many have been crucified for three days and mortally wounded...."

None, absolutely none.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 30 November 2015 6:51:53 AM
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One person's faith is another person's gullibility. Is there any difference between faith and gullibility? Perhaps there a number x. If x people share a particular gullibility it becomes faith.

I was trying to point out when I started this thread that faith can do great harm. Better doubt and question.
Posted by david f, Monday, 30 November 2015 7:28:30 AM
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A person who lives by doubt never achieve or invest. Faith engenders hope and vision and creates positive minded people. I'd rather mix with people of faith than with negative pessimists.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 30 November 2015 8:52:34 PM
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Josephus,

This is a false dichotomy.

<<I'd rather mix with people of faith than with negative pessimists.>>

Negative pessimism is not the opposite of faith. Nor is it the only alternative. A healthy scepticism is the opposite of faith. Like so many others, you confuse or conflate scepticism with cynicism.

I would rather not mix with people who deliberately delude themselves into believing something just because it feels nice.

Faith is belief without good reason. How on Earth could that possibly, in any way, be a positive thing?

Anything positive that may appear to have resulted from faith is likely to have been a fluke, and would inevitably come with drawbacks.
Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 30 November 2015 9:31:48 PM
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"Is there any difference between faith and gullibility"
and "Faith is belief without good reason. How on Earth could that possibly, in any way, be a positive thing?"

Perhaps I may offer an example of Faith, in a positive light, that answers the above?

"Father Damien or Saint Damien of Molokai, SS.CC. or Saint Damien de Veuster (Dutch: Pater Damiaan or Heilige Damiaan van Molokai; January 3, 1840 – April 15, 1889),[2] born Jozef De Veuster, was a Roman Catholic priest from Belgium and member of the Congregation of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary,[3] a missionary religious institute. He won recognition for his ministry from 1873 to 1889 in the Kingdom of Hawai&#699;i to people with leprosy (also known as Hansen's disease), who were required to live under a government-sanctioned medical quarantine on the island of Moloka&#699;i.[4]

After sixteen years' caring for the physical, spiritual, and emotional needs of those in the leper colony, Father Damien died of leprosy...."

One presumes that Damien's faith is what spurred him on, it certainly wasn't the money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Damien
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 30 November 2015 10:00:27 PM
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