No Genius Bogan, I am still not with you.
"Why can't we simply say that the buck stops with the "redneck" Islamists and no one else??"
I haven't heard anyone say what colour skin the terrorists in Paris had/have, although some of the survivors stated they were young men of middle eastern appearance.
I would imagine that most people would think that meant they had dark hair and dark skin. They were heard to yell the usual thing that Islamic-based terrorists say, so everyone might assume they were Muslim.

That is not to say that ALL terrorists look like that, or that they are all Muslim though does it? Because that would be untrue.
The violent young blokes that shot dead so many kids at US schools were predominantly young white guys, and I would certainly call them terrorists too.

Suse, your conversation with GeniusBogan is a perfect example of how you pretend to not understand what is clearly spelled out to you, whilst continuing to hold your flawed position. When confronted with a logical explanation you either retreat into denial, fail to answer direct questions, disappear, or simply continue as though a sensible alternative position was never presented.

You say - "That is not to say that ALL terrorists look like that, or that they are all Muslim though does it? Because that would be untrue.
The violent young blokes that shot dead so many kids at US schools were predominantly young white guys, and I would certainly call them terrorists too."

Your comment above is completely false thinking and deflection. The deranged serial killers and gun crazed idiots in America are not terrorist, they are not attempting to change the political landscape or carry out their acts in the name of a false God. The people today who are the terrorist causing so many problems throughout the world are in fact exclusively Muslim. It doesn't matter if they are brown Muslims from the middle East, black Muslims from Africa or white Muslims from Chechnya, they are Muslims.

When are you going to finally wake up and admit there is a Muslim problem, regardless of the fact most Muslim are not responsible?

I've said several times that I believe Islamic expansionism is a bigger threat to the world of the future than climate change. I find it ironic that both issues are now coming to a head in Paris.

ConservativeHippie; "The deranged serial killers and gun crazed idiots in America are not terrorist,"

And the deranged killers from ISIS etc, are not terrorists?
Anyone who walks around with a gun and a suicide belt has to be deranged.
Do not worry about "Islamic expansionism is a bigger threat to the world of the future than climate change."
Climate change will wipe most animal life out eventually and Allah will not save the Muslims.
Sorry to say you are the one in a flawed position. I wish you were right this time.

Robert and Suseonline suffer from the same mistaken belief that there is no difference between a deranged killer and a Muslim extremist but they are completely wrong.

A terrorist group has an agenda of striking ongoing fear/terror into the society of people it is against with a view toward changing the thinking of those people to comply. Join us or die from us. General Custer was a terrorist. He sought to strike terror into the Indians until they succumb to their fears and surrender. A deranged killer has no such intention and does not belong to a group of like minded people. The deranged are out-of-control individuals expressing rage caused by psychosis or grievances emanating within their own head.

Terrorists belong to a cause. Jihad is responsible for just about every terrorist act we've witnessed in the past 50 years. Muslim terrorism is not one off crackpots, its a movement that is getting stronger and their religion is not taking strong enough steps to reverse the trend. Our open society allows radical Muslim clerics to preach hate.

Sure some terrorist are probably deranged and some might have particularly sadistic mindsets, but the common feature they share with others within their circle is the belief they can die performing evil against non-believers and their religion will regard them as martyrs. Until the Koran includes passages that specifically states such evil acts are not rewarded in Heaven, Muslim terrorists have a license to kill. The Koran cannot be modified as per instructions from Mohammed, the religion cannot evolve to reflect the 1500 years of enlightened change in the world, and there lies the Catch 22 that strangles moderate Muslims from enabling the necessary effective changes.

Time will tell who is right about climate change but in 100 years even if the temperature has risen 4 degrees, which it won't, coastal cities will not be submerged underwater. However, if Muslim expansionism goes unchecked for the next 100 years coupled with their higher birth rates, your great grandchildren will either be Muslim converts or paying a Sharia tax to stay alive.

I repeat;
Do not worry about "Islamic expansionism is a bigger threat to the world of the future than climate change."
Climate change will wipe most animal life out eventually and Allah will not save the Muslims.

So Robert, are you saying and/or do you believe there is nothing to be concerned about in regard to predicted number of uninvited Muslims entering Europe? Is an endless and limitless surge acceptable? How many Muslims do you think Australia should accept, 10,000, 100,000 a 1,000,000?

At what point does the Muslim invasion become an issue? Or do you think everyone who is concerned is just a paranoid racist with baseless illogical fears, even though world events suggest otherwise? On what basis do you draw your conclusions?

Where exactly are you coming from?

By the way, my belief there is less real concern from climate change than Muslim expansionism is over the next 100 years, as per the predictions of The Holy Climate Guru - Flannery, not eternity. If we set no limit to how long it will take for climate change to have the bigger damaging effect then I fully agree with you, Allah won't stop the next ice age which will come and will be devastating to humanity, the animal kingdom and most plant life.

In the meantime, are you happy for your future relatives to be governed by Sharia Law?