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Getting a Seniors' party into the Senate

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Dear o sung wu,

I totally agree with your summation. This is exactly what I have been on about.

And it is because of the incompetence and selfishness and stupidity of Australia's politicians and business leaders over the past 35 years that seniors should unite to protect their group interests. The politicians and business leaders have sold us out to China for profits and tax revenues. So why not unite to put a seniors' rep into federal government to protect ourselves from the impact of the unstoppable Chinese takeover that everyone can see but doesn't want to oppose.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 6:44:51 PM
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Hi there MR OPINION...

Further to your last thread, I too would totally support the installation of a Senior person into the Senate, in fact why not another one or two like minded individuals ? Not only to preserve the existing rights of seniors, but to take up those specific issues and causes that deleteriously impact upon the lives and general welfare of all elderly Australians. A further benefit would be, to inject some good old fashioned commonsense and steadiness into the parliament, a commodity which has been sadly lacking in recent years.
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 7:10:37 PM
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Dear David,

It may well be that the New Testament is lacking in historical accuracy, nor did I claim otherwise.

What you cannot do however, is on the one hand to complain about Jesus being an arrogant nut for saying "I am the way... Only through me...", then on the other hand that he hasn't said it.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 10:53:33 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

You wrote: "What you cannot do however, is on the one hand to complain about Jesus being an arrogant nut for saying "I am the way... Only through me...", then on the other hand that he hasn't said it."

I wrote: "If somebody came to me and said, "I am the way, the truth, the life." I would think he was an arrogant nut even if his name was Jesus."

Note I was careful to write "if". If he said it he was an arrogant nut.

That is not claiming that Jesus said it. The Jesus depicted in the New Testament is an arrogant nut. He may not have said it or even existed.

If he was as pictured in the New Testament the Jews were spot on in recognising and not accepting him.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 12:10:55 AM
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Dear David,

If somebody came to me and said, "I am the way, the truth, the life" then I would need to consider many possibilities:

1. That s/he is an arrogant nut.
2. That s/he is a charlatan.
3. That s/he is a comedian and there's a secret camera behind.
4. That s/he took drugs.
5. That s/he wants to be declared insane in court, to avoid punishment.
6. That someone is pointing a gun at her, ordering her to say those words.
7. That s/he has bet $1000 with a friend that s/he would dare to go out and say that to a stranger.
8. That s/he was sent by the atheist-society in order to test me.
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N. That s/he speaks the truth, knowing who s/he truly is.

To try and determine which case it is, I would need to know more about the whole context and look at supporting/refuting evidence.
In particular, any hint of selfishness, power-seeking, greed or lust would rule out the last possibility. Their rare absence, however, would strengthen that case.

Fortunately for me, I also had glimpses of directly-experiencing who I am, so I can remember the space from where I could have said those words myself, with no trace of arrogance and though it was in the past and only memories remain, comparing my memory of those moments with my impressions of the person in question can also be of much help.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 2:12:06 AM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

Have a nice day.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 2:26:43 AM
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