Suseonline I think I've been pretty clear in stating that I think its often both parties contibuting including males.

The physical fear point is valid but ignores so much else.
The male dealing with an abusive wife hiding behind the I'm a women you can't touch me shield is in a very difficult position. The male dealing with a family law and child support system that allows it self to be used as a tool to inflict long term harm on the other party year after year. Social attitudes and training about DV amongst professionals that mean that a male dealing with DV is unlikely to get much support.

There are other aspects that in my view also sit there along side the physical fear factor, women generally better skills with spoken words and emotions gives them at times a devestating advantage in a conflict where physical strength is not involved. Different type of fear but one that seems real to many. Again one of my broken records, male suicide rates far outweigh those of women (but I don't think female suicide should be ignored ).

Physical strength is clearly a significant factor when it comes to a brawl, in the lead up to it and for most couples who don't engage in physical violence it may be there in the background but its not the main dynamic in play.

R0bert

Yes, all valid points RObert.
Now, how to stop it all leading to injury or death?
I think it is all too hard!
Cheers,
Suse.

Australia's future does not lie with cynical politicians whose political pragmatism and gutlessness render them compliant creatures of ruthless, noisy lobbyists and to be dictated to by the tabloids. That is NOT the way of the statesman that the Australian public know is required to create a better Australia.

It isn't only in kowtowing to the meme of female frailty and endless victimhood that the superficial Malcolm Turnbull has let Australia down, there are far more serious lapses, one being his early failure to be a champion for freedom of speech.

Would YOU trust Shorten or Turnbull with your lifetime superannuation contributions, with protecting your home from capital gains tax, or with ensuring that your children and grandchildren have the quality of life that is their rightful inheritance? Many would say, "Probably not".

However if the public were asked if Shorten, Turnbull and others of a similar cut will be exiting politics in a far better personal situations esp., financial state, for being there and the answer would be, "Yes, definitely!".

Where have all the statesmen gone, long time passing? Where have all the statesmen gone? Knobbled by the 'progressive' inner city elite, every one...[with apologies to Peter, Paul and Mary].

Suse/R0bert

"Now, how to stop it all leading to injury or death? I think it is all too hard!"

DV will never be brought to zero. Human nature is such that there will always be people of both genders, with bad attitudes and behaviours. You can only ever hope to minimize it. And a good start in doing that would be to put end to the "we are holier than thou" positions people take - like minimizing or ignoring women’s role in domestic violence.

Another thing that needs being done is to take domestic violence laws away from the states and territories. States and Territories apply different policies and terminology.

The laws on this issue and the court processes should be determined at the federal level so that they better integrate with family law. Of course those laws could be cross-vested back to the states and territories for implementation through local and magistrate courts in those jurisdictions. I believe under the constitution the feds have the power to make laws in relation to the family. Another benefit would be in the collection of statistics. You can’t develop good policy if you don’t have good solid data. And when I talk about data I don’t mean the number of police attendances to DV incidents or the number of phone calls women’s agencies receive. I’m talking about far better quality and more insightful data when analysed. And the analyse of that data should be published on the internet so that anyone interested in the subject can gain the best understanding of the real facts of the matter.

Currently there has been far too much politicization of the DV issue at both the state and federal level eg. "Malcolm's call for respect for women”

Too much of what goes on in the development of policy in this area, goes on behind closed doors eg at domestic violence conferences. Organisers of such conferences largely funded at taxpayer expense should be required to publish the text or video of keynote speakers presentations. Here is an example of how it should be done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s62eNC5iws

Looks like a truce, bashers will stop bashing if only their partners stop being uppity. The PM only has to ask bashers to "man up" and stop bashing terrified partners and ex-partners who will even go to the extreme of moving out to the UK like Ms Batty to get away. The state only has to stand back and respect bashers' right to remain at large to go on bashing.

I remain confident that the current round of public inquiries will come up with ways that the state can stop the physical violence dead in its tracks quam primum in ways that the small group of gender warriors in this OLO thread can't face up to. Like locking the bashers up till their victims can really feel safe having the bashers allowed back into society.

EmporerJulian

"... ex-partners who will even go to the extreme of moving out to the UK like Ms Batty to get away."

Ms Batty had not moved to the UK. She had recently returned from the UK and maybe the purpose of that trip was to, inter alia, condition her son to living there permanently as she seemed to be distancing him from his father. She had sought legal advice on taking her son to live permanently in the UK. Also apparently Anderson was very upset about his son not having been in communication with him following the sons return from the UK. Earlier in 2003 Batty had been successful in getting get the court to reduce the fathers access to just weekend sporting events. She used the argument that her son had been threatened by his father with a knife. Her son denied that happened to the authorities. There were other "allegations" as well. That's all there were over eleven years - allegations - never a conviction.

BTW the Rosie Batty man blaming road show continues:

http://www.criterionconferences.com/event/domesticviolenceaus/