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Australians for Reconciliation in Syria condemns Australian participation in illegal war in Syria

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Donald Trump has said in relation to war in Syria causing refugees to spill into Europe, "let them kill each other and then pick up the pieces".

The pieces are already being picked up off beaches and from boats and where floating dead in the water.

America must take down it's modern day iron curtain and help President Assad and Russia to gain control of peace in Syria.

If American and Russian people can join in peace in the space station it should be possible for America to now urgently join Russia to help regain peace in Syria.

Why is US Secretary of State John Kerry not helping to stem the flow of desperate people out of Syria?

What justifiable reason does John Kerry have to go after Assad?
What has Assad been convicted of doing? Exactly what?

Lives of many good Syrian people are being lost.
There has to be justifiable reason to not help stem such loss however possible to now urgently achieve.

Picking up the pieces is not justifiable, as the World Court may eventually find.

John Kerry has blood on his hands.

The Trump approach is a disgrace.
Posted by JF Aus, Saturday, 19 September 2015 8:39:25 AM
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JF Aus, you missed the most important question;
Why do they get into boats when they could catch a bus or train from
Instanbul or simply walk across the border between Turkey and Greece or
Bulgaria ?

Is being boat people more dramatic ? Or just plain stupid ?
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 19 September 2015 9:24:04 AM
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malthusista, I do not think that it is as simple as you make it out to be.
If attacks are being made from ISIS controlled areas where the Government
of Syria has no control, then it is either an attack by the Syrian government
or the Syrian government has lost the territory.
Also there is the law regarding hot pursuit.

I think to say it is illegal is drawing a long bow.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 19 September 2015 9:31:08 AM
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Malthusista,

Just to elaborate on Bazz's comment:

Question - has ISIS launched attacks on Iraq from Syrian soil ? Yes ? Then the Iraqis - and whoever they choose as their allies - are entitled, under international law {'hot pursuit'], to pursue and destroy ISIS, in Syria.

Actually, in law, they are entitled not just to pursue ISIS into Syria and destroy its forces there, but to occupy that territory. Whether or not it is still technically part of Syria is probably irrelevant in law.

And surely the Russians know this. So why are they hostile on attacks on ISIS in Syria ? Of course, they are not colluding with them, but is it more a matter of support for Syria's national pride, an assertion of Syria's rather thread-bare sovereignty ? Over territory that they haven't controlled for years ?

OF COURSE, Russia wants to be the only big-power meddling in Syria, that's understandable. But Russia has no right to speak about eastern Syria, bits of Syria that Assad hasn't controlled for years - and on the basis of Russia's own rationale for its invasions of Georgia, the Crimea and eastern Ukraine, it can't now criticise whatever is happening in eastern Syria. Sauce and goose ....

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 19 September 2015 12:03:52 PM
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Malthuista said;
Damascus says the three countries should stop sending terrorists
into Syria if they want to fight terrorism.

If that is the case why are we stopping them at the airport and will
gaol them if they are silly enough to come back ?
We gaol them & do not cut their heads off !
Anyway, in this new form of warfare I doubt if there are any rules.
The present rules are to cover where large armies sweep across a
country with a front of hundreds of miles wide.
Malthusister, it is no longer the dark ages.

The air activity severely limits ISIS's ability to move columns along
the roads in day or night. It is beginning to look like their expansion
has been restricted. They are starting to stagnate and that ultimately
leads to surrender or suicide. I hope the latter.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 19 September 2015 2:58:17 PM
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Bazz, not all thre boat people are coming from Turkey.

There is yet another important question.
Syrian refugees should be able to just step into Israel where they could be cared for while working in a Kibbutz until peace in their country returns.

Surely Israel can afford a to care for a few such asylum seekers.
Posted by JF Aus, Saturday, 19 September 2015 7:18:41 PM
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