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Women being paid less, well what did you really expect.
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Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 10:52:48 PM
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Dear Rehctub,
I don't agree with your reference to "lies" being preached regarding the pay-gap between men and women in this country. However, I do agree that the whole story is not being told just by giving only the sensationalist statistics. That is misleading. Mikayla Novak, a senior researcher with the Institute of Public Affairs wrote an interesting article a while back for The Age. You might find it interesting as well: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/pay-gap-due-to-womens-choices-not-gender-bias-20150307-13y5bl.html She states that instead of just focusing only on the average pay-gap stats between men and women - we should instead try to discuss the respective roles, attitudes, preferences, cultural norms and policies in shaping economic and social opportunities for women as well. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:57:09 PM
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Foxy that is exactly what is wrong with the whole pay rate system.
What we should be focusing on is not who does the job, & particularly not on the nebulous "She states that instead of just focusing only on the average pay-gap stats between men and women - we should instead try to discuss the respective roles, attitudes, preferences, cultural norms and policies in shaping economic and social opportunities for women as well" What we should focus on is the skill & or training required to do the job, & how much doing it can earn the employer wanting it done. Business are not, & should never be expected to become yet another welfare provider, which is what your author is wanting them to become. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 11:20:07 AM
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Skills and training, All being equal there is no need for different pay scales because of gender. These days there are set limits that persons can lift or carry, which further levels the tasks that are needed to be done.
Women are capable as any man with identical training or skills, the armed forces are coming to that conclusion. So why not workplaces, nothing other than blatant discrimination. Posted by doog, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 12:39:50 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,
She's actually focusing on quite a bit more. Perhaps you should re-read the link again. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 1:37:43 PM
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Doog, if a man can lift say 20kilos in a workplace and a woman only 14, how is that being equal? So in such a case the mans wage should be higher.
On the same token, if a woman can process far more data than a man then she should be paid more. But the real issue here is about how these feminists arrive at their numbers as they on,y look at gross earnings, not hourly rates and that's simply distortion of the facts. Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 3:46:20 PM
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It stands to reason that if a man on average works more hours then their gross pay will be higher.
It's a total sham.