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The Forum > General Discussion > Is the Green dream crashing in Europe?

Is the Green dream crashing in Europe?

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Foxy,

As a businessman once said to me, "you can't eat reputation"

While I agree with replacing aging equipment with non CO2 emitting plant, we still have about $100bn worth of plant most of which has productive life of decades, and which is already capable of producing all the power Aus needs.

Labor has just committed to going from about 14% now to 23% in 2020 which is already double the rate from the last decade. Now Shorten has pledged to go from 23% to 50% in 10 years which is nearly double again.

Notably Shorten has just admitted to journalists that the 50% RET target is unachieveable without bipartisan support from the libs, which is not going to happen. And if Labor reintroduces a carbon tax again, it will be repealed again.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 9:54:25 AM
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Shadow Minister, "the 50% RET target is unachievable without" changing the laws of physics.

There is no way any electricity grid in the world can survive if fed by that much intermittent wind & solar power.

Currently the Danes & Germans have to feed a large amount of wind power to Sweden, when their windmills are actually producing, to pump water up hill. Their grid would fail if this outlet was not available.

They give this power to Sweden currently, but there is talk od Sweden demanding some payment for taking it off their hands.

Great investment hey? Hugely expensive, economy destroying, wind power, & you have to pay to get rid of it.

We should shorten Shorten, by cutting him off at the knees, before he really causes us massive damage with this stupidity.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 6:00:50 PM
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As Hon. W.C. once indicated, some people can be fooled some of the time but not all people all of the time.
A majority of sensible people including most scientists worldwide do not agree CO2 is causing climate change.

I think it amazing some regulars here on OLO are still dumbed down considering insight here on OLO, to evidence warmth in ocean algae plant matter is not measured and assessed in AGW,IPCC and Kyoto associated science.
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 6:46:03 AM
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JF Aus,

"A majority of sensible people including most scientists worldwide do not agree CO2 is causing climate change."

Lol!
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 7:56:35 AM
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JF Aus,

You know and I know that the 'Environmental" claim that most Scientists reject the notion of Anthropological Global Warming is absolutely wrong. It was done on the publication of scientific papers, papers produced by those scientists that were on the public teat (ie) Global Warming Bandwagon.

What many are opposed to is the method of imposing 'renewable energy' on society as the solution when if you know anything about renewable energy you should have worked out it 'Does Not Work'.

The world has got to stop fluffy around the edges and have a concerted effort to replace coal generators with Nuclear Power. The safest and cheapest energy generating system yet devised by mankind.

Regards,
Posted by Graeme of Malvern, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 9:14:00 AM
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just like the coolest predicted the ice age in the 70's, the alarmist were convinced we were out of oil before 2000, the y2k bug was going to destroy the earth now the warmist follow their faith, they will need a new funding source in the future. Idiotic regressive Governments love to fund their mates and faith based ideolgies which inevitably show up as scams. The national broadcasters rely on this type of rubbish. It is obvious that most holding to this nonsense like the getup crowd have grown up with group think and are incapable of using their brains. A few old feminst also need this 'moral'issue as they have thrown up decency.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 10:08:45 AM
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